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To discuss how to grow and manage communities / magazines on Lemmy, Mbin, Piefed and Sublinks

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Also, if you have doubts about brigading, Discuit have a brigading post on their meta community: https://discuit.net/DiscuitMeta/post/pTyw2MZw

Edit: as you can see, the post has been deleted

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[–] Corgana@startrek.website 13 points 1 day ago (2 children)

I would be interested in helping with a coordinated effort to promote Lemmy instances on Reddit. Sometimes I check in on /r/RedditAlternatives and it's clear 90% of the people who would be happy with Lemmy have already left for Lemmy. But there are many threads where a simple "maybe check out Lemmy I like it a lot" could do a lot of help. It's not like users need to quit Reddit but every post on a Lemmy instance (even if it's also on Reddit) helps make our instances more appealing.

Perhaps setting up a community here to link to such threads could be a useful idea? And we could get talking points aligned as well.

[–] threelonmusketeers@sh.itjust.works 3 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

Perhaps setting up a community here to link to such threads could be a useful idea?

Sounds like a great idea! Any reason these couldn't be posted right here in !fedigrow@lemm.ee? I think promoting the fediverse and growing the userbase falls well within the scope of c/fedigrow.

[–] Corgana@startrek.website 1 points 13 hours ago

Certainly would fit here but a dedicated space I think would function better for coordinating a specific task.

[–] Blaze@feddit.org 2 points 22 hours ago (1 children)

!fedigrow@lemm.ee should definitely work, I'll have try to see if there were recent posts and try to link them there

However, be aware thar most of the mods are going to remove mentions of Reddit alternatives.

[–] Corgana@startrek.website 1 points 13 hours ago (1 children)

I was a mod for over a decade, believe me even if it gets removed, a quickly-upvoted comment will still get tons of attention 😈

[–] Blaze@feddit.org 1 points 13 hours ago

The annoying part is getting banned and not being able to comment anymore 😔

[–] IDKWhatUsernametoPutHereLolol@lemmy.dbzer0.com 52 points 1 day ago (1 children)

My guess is: Both were recommended, admins deleted the one mentioning Lemmy, since it's an actual threat.

[–] Blaze@feddit.org 16 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I don't even think so. My post about the latest version of Voyager explicitly mentions Lemmy and is still up, but with only 22 points

[–] IDKWhatUsernametoPutHereLolol@lemmy.dbzer0.com 14 points 1 day ago (4 children)

Mentioning an app update isn't exactly a "call to action".

"Lemmy Now Supports [New Feature]! Come join us now!" that is what might get removed

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[–] Blackout@fedia.io 25 points 1 day ago (2 children)

I'd rather have people migrate over organically. I think Reddit was spoiled for me when it went from a niche collection of interesting people and topics to Facebook in a forum format. Almost anytime I go on r/all now i couldn't tell if the posts were recent or bot reposts from 5 years ago. The smaller subreddits still keep the spirit of the place going but the general community is just another social network.

[–] njm1314@lemmy.world 8 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (2 children)

What makes this non organic? I learned about reddit on digg and Lemmy on Reddit. Seemed organic to me.

[–] Corgana@startrek.website 5 points 1 day ago

Maybe they just expect users to accidentally type in the name of a Lemmy instance into the URL bar? Is that organic enough?

[–] Blackout@fedia.io 2 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Because OP is suggesting we brigade that subreddit and actively encourage people to use Lemmy. I believe eventually the users more like the OG redditors will come naturally on their own. Like with content from Lemmy shared on Reddit or other social media. Wait for the content and audience to bring them over than to self-advertise too much too early.

[–] OpenStars@piefed.social 4 points 1 day ago

Reportedly Reddit has >500 million accounts, 73.1 million daily active users (DAUs) globally, and estimates for monthly unique visitors around 1.2 billion - the latter must be like non-account holders then? (I dunno how many are bots)

I seriously doubt that our tiny place even could "brigade" them if we tried in earnest (using humans rather than bots I mean).

Even so, I agree it's best to be friendly and therefore sensitive to the subject to not let that happen.

[–] njm1314@lemmy.world 4 points 1 day ago

Well that seems like an idea tailor made to make this site never expand. Content follows users. If it weren't for people saying come use Lemmy I wouldn't be here. Nor would 99% of people. Same with reddit.

[–] kryptonidas@lemmings.world 11 points 1 day ago

Nothing actually seems real on Reddit anymore. Comments are fake and every story someone tells is fake too. News is just pushed by propaganda algorithms. It’s all gone to 💩

I’ll enjoy it here while it lasts.

[–] hono4kami@slrpnk.net 15 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Most popular thread

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I say let them try the website themselves. If they liked using that website, then it's okay. If they don't like it then it's okay too, maybe they'll try lemmy out.

[–] Blaze@feddit.org 7 points 1 day ago (4 children)

A comment saying

Lemmy is federated, with communities scatered around different servers. If someone is gonna search for an alternative to reddit, I doubt they want to have to learn to navigate the fediverse.

Currently has 15 votes, while my comment suggesting people to try Lemmy as it's bigger is down to 2.

I'm not sure if Lemmy just has a very bad reputation over there in general, or if Discuit people are brigading the comments

[–] Kichae@lemmy.ca 13 points 1 day ago (1 children)

People find the "which 'Gaming' community is the real one?" issue very frustrating, because they currently have the illusion that they have access to everything all in one place. The idea that you can't have a discussion with a million other people is meaningless to them, totally crushed under the weight of FOMO.

They look at Reddit, and they look at Lemmy, and they see that they're different, but don't really care why. They see that different (not more, just different) effort is required to navigate the space. They don't care that they just need a different mental model to understand the space -- they don't want one. And the design language of the space communicates to them that they don't need one.

I'm not going to get up on my soapbox and rant and rave about this today -- I'm too tired, and it's too busy of a week -- but this is what I mean when I keep saying we can't win against centralized social media by aping the UI. "Lemmy" just isn't a Reddit replacement in the same way that another centralized service is. A Lemmy-based website, sure. But not the network of them.

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[–] OpenStars@piefed.social 3 points 1 day ago

I thought your parent comment to it was very well stated and succinct.

e.g. you don't have to know how it works anymore than someone needs to know how email or a combustion engine works - you simply click to go there and start reading stuff, if you like it then make an account and start participating as well.:-)

Lemmy requires heavy curation to block extremist content if one is so inclined (as I am), but wasn't Reddit becoming that way too when we left it? And on X I think it simply can't be done at all. It would be neat if we could add a "political" tag to filter by (like NSFW/NSFL), but meh, it is what it is.

Unlike some other instances, the default there is All, so they'll see the entirety of the Fediverse (minus Lemmygrad + Hexbear) even without an account or having to click anything at all. It's the perfect instance to recommend to the Reddit audience that is so heavily American (according to similarweb, 51%:-).

You are doing great work making sure that people are aware of what choices they have available to them - what they do with that is ofc up to them.:-)

[–] IDKWhatUsernametoPutHereLolol@lemmy.dbzer0.com 5 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I think it could be the "Tankie Devs" FUD coming into play. People don't understand the devs don't control anything other than lemmygrad.ml and lemmy.ml, if they start injecting BS code, we could always fork it.

But one "Devs are Tankies" comment would just scare the neolibs and centrists away. (conservatives are never joining, that's not just a dev PR issue, its the userbase being too "left wing" for them, also, I doubt conservatives care about corporations controlling everything)

[–] Blaze@feddit.org 4 points 1 day ago

one “Devs are Tankies” comment would just scare the neolibs and centrists away.

I tried to mitigate that with a post a few months ago: https://old.reddit.com/r/RedditAlternatives/comments/1fmuk7o/post_to_address_the_usual_criticism_about_lemmy/

I use it as a reference every time someone brings it up

[–] Zedstrian@lemmy.dbzer0.com 5 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Reddit could be manipulating votes that mention Lemmy, or otherwise shadowbanning mentions of it.

[–] Peppycito@sh.itjust.works 11 points 1 day ago (14 children)

It could be that a first glance at lemmy is total shit. The "front page" is a hot mess, half in German with piles of pervy anime and Linux posts. It might be hard to believe, but not everyone likes that stuff. It takes heavy curating to get a moderately personally interesting feed and very few people are going to do that.

[–] Kichae@lemmy.ca 5 points 1 day ago (5 children)

But that's just it, "Lemmy's" front page isn't like that. There's no "Lemmy" front page. There's a thousand different ones.

Reddit is a website. Lemmy is a potentially unlimited, constantly changing, number of websites. They're not directly comparable.

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[–] Blaze@feddit.org 5 points 1 day ago

I just had a look at https://discuit.net/DiscuitMeta, the thread there has been deleted too.

Not sure what happened, maybe they were afraid they were getting trolls from the post on Reddit?

[–] Franconian_Nomad@feddit.org 9 points 1 day ago (5 children)

I wasn’t on Reddit for over a year but from what I’ve heard about /r/redditalternatives is that it’s a shitshow.

If somebody is still on Reddit, direct recruitment over DMs might be better if there’s a candidate who might be interested.

[–] MudMan@fedia.io 27 points 1 day ago (3 children)

Are we hazing people on entrance? I didn't get the memo that we're running a cult over here.

I don't use Reddit, but getting DMs from people telling me to use other platforms sounds like a great way to get me to not try those platforms.

This thread made me go see what's up with Discuit, though, so... food for thought about social media dynamics.

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[–] Blaze@feddit.org 10 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I wasn’t on Reddit for over a year but from what I’ve heard about /r/redditalternatives is that it’s a shitshow.

It's quite okay to be honest. Not that active, but that's mostly it.

If somebody is still on Reddit, direct recruitment over DMs might be better if there’s a candidate who might be interested.

The issue is that to DM you have to know who is actually interested, and you'll miss most of the lurkers. Also, this could be reported as spamming and get you banned.

[–] Franconian_Nomad@feddit.org 3 points 1 day ago

Ah, thanks for the info and very good point. Good to hear that it’s not that bad.

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