Work Reform

Funny that this is a complaint I just heard from a co-worker blaming a certain generation for being late, staring at their cellphone instead of working, etc. I generally lol at this studf because plenty of my co workers are cell addicts themselves. I guess the biggest difference is that most are more judicious about it.

No generation is monolithic, just to be clear, despite some trends they might display.

But yeah, we’ve had a few people fired because they unapologetically couldn't get their shit together. My career isn’t one where showing up late is even remotely acceptable. There’s been a massive upheaval in my industry from shitty pay for decades and a grind to climb the ladder that very quickly got rid of people that weren’t committed to the job, to today where the industry has been throwing money at people, huge pay hikes for the former grinders, and rapid climbs up the ladder with job offers everywhere.

So they’re spoiled in a way. No need to conform when people are handing you everything on a platter at some level. While I really appreciate the fact that these new people have it good, this job never should have needed the sacrifices it did, at the same time they really aren’t professional. On time is everything in this job.

Are we really trying to make this of all things a generational thing? Why?

It depends on the job, if you have to say open a store then 10 min late is a problem. You have to say make a thing, then 10 mins is not an issue as long as the thing is done.

I have seen people with no respect for other peoples time (so they where late often) and they where not of a single generation but more commonly of a class (the people with means tend to think they can be late).

This article is just the same sentence over and over again. Must be those lazy millenials copy-pasting in their computers again.

Is the work getting done? If so, what does ten minutes matter? Is it about productivity, or just about ensuring that work is sufficiently unpleasant to keep the peasants in their place?

I am fresh off a rather interesting conversation with my boomer boss. I’m a new manager and I’m working on policy and process. I was basically shut down, told to not bother documenting, that we have a way of doing things and he would spend every day with me for weeks to get it right if he had to.

I asked again, wouldn’t it be easier and more efficient to have these processes documented and accepted rather than force muscle memory? I even offered to document the process during our training sessions but was told that were a small company and no one will look at documentation if we create it (we’re a 2000 employee manufacturing company).

Oh well, I know how to work around obstinance and he’s pretty old.

It depends on the job. For most office jobs, I don't think it matters that much if you show up a bit late to go to the bank or if you're stuck in traffic, especially now that holding online meetings are easy.

But for a job where being late means holding up the work of hundreds of people, say, being an actor on set, then showing up ahead of time is very important.

Work and quality of life > filling time to satisfy timecards

What is actually needed is the flexibility to do it.

It really doesn't matter for the task if I'm physically present between 8:15-16:15 instead of 8:00-16:00.

If I have to be at my desk at 8 sharp, I will hit the rush hour both ways, having to leave my home at least 20 minutes earlier and waste that time in congestion for no good reason. I'll be home about the same time, because the only difference is how long I get to stare at the steering wheel.

I don't care if the one option that saves me 1-2 hours of unpaid time every week is considered "tardy" by boomers. In my gen-x point of view, a lot of their lifestyle is wasteful for no other reason than selfmade "traditions".

Well then the boomer bitches can pay enough for us to live 10-15 mins from work, not a 2 hr drive in rush hour. This close eyed brutal existence they are forcing on us is about to implode on them. The barbarians kicked over the oil, they dropped their torches into it, and they are currently sharpening sticks to roast the ruling class with. This is not a damn game. You stole our lives from us, now we want yours. (The actual life, not your quality of living)

Used to be a phone salesman. Got there at least 15 minutes late every day. It got so bad that one time I got there 15 minutes early and when my boss saw me get there he shouted "Steve?! What time is it?!". Nobody cared because I outsold everyone else by so much that I was making double what they were, until the boss of my boss' boss decided to start micromanaging the branch and basically told me I would be fired unless I started showing up on time. Boomers have weird priorities.

Maybe if the fucking workplace wasn't so fucking far from home, or if public transportation was decent, people would be much less likely to arrive late at work.

The other thing is, as soon as you realize that your job could be remote, which is true for a lot of office stuff, being "on time" matters fuck all.

I was either 10 minutes early or 20 minutes late

A bus ride taking 40 minutes to go to work sucks

But the workplace was great so I don't have much to complain about

I'm gen x. I'm always anxious about being on time because of how I was raised (thanks Mom). My partner is older than me and she's ok with being late. This isn't an age thing. It's a personality thing.

They're trying to divide us by sowing division amongst generations. The most wealthy are the enemy. They own everything and we must join together to take it back.

This really depends on what you're doing.

If you're in IT nobody should care. If you're doing an artillery barrage then being late could mean a lot of your people die.

Highly dependent on what you do for work. But if Bob the Bookstore Manager wants me to treat a cashier job with the same respect as a military mission then he better be willing to issue me a rifle and a 400,000 dollar life insurance policy

The boomers are dying out. It's a self solving problem.

The mouth pieces for the ruling class really love pumping out articles to drive division between us…

I actually think I’m with the boomers on this one. You should strive to be on time. No need to make a federal case out of occasionally being a little late, but it’s wrong to be constantly late.