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[–] that_leaflet@lemmy.world 36 points 4 days ago (1 children)

Google products work on pretty much every platform, whereas with Apple you're out of luck if you use any non-Apple platforms.

[–] paraphrand@lemmy.world 5 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago) (5 children)

Apple Music is on Android and Windows.

Apple TV is one a wide range of devices.

AirPlay is on a wide range of TVs, and Roku boxes.

iCloud is on Windows. Files, photos, contacts, etc. They just added Passwords.

So out of luck isn’t exactly true. Unless you are a die hard Pages user or something. And there you have a web app.

[–] LiPoly@lemmynsfw.com 21 points 4 days ago (2 children)

Apple Music on Windows sucked hard until a year ago or so.

Apple TV/AirPlay is only on select devices.

iCloud on Windows sucks cock.

Compared to that “lineup,” Google services work outright flawless.

[–] paraphrand@lemmy.world 5 points 4 days ago

Fair criticisms. I personally avoid installing iCloud on Windows because I’m scared of it causing some sort of sync issue.

But the assertion was there was nothing.

Also, Chromecast was only on select devices. Google Playstore is only on select devices.

[–] Romkslrqusz@lemm.ee 0 points 4 days ago

When’s the last time you tried iCloud for Windows?

There was a time where the app was clunky and awful, but the last few times I’ve had to interact with it it came pretty damn close to seamless.

[–] jakeyounglol@lemm.ee 7 points 4 days ago

yeah but they don’t have linux versions of any of their software. an increasing number of people are ditching windows because of microsoft’s intensifying enshittification and hackintoshes are dying because of the mac transition to apple silicon

[–] mbirth@lemmy.ml 6 points 4 days ago

Apple Maps also is available via browser for a few weeks now.

[–] SparrowRanjitScaur@lemmy.world 3 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Nice cherry picked examples. iMessage isn't available on other platforms, and it's impossible to join a shared iphotos album from a non apple device. Two features that are arguably the most important for non apple users.

[–] paraphrand@lemmy.world 2 points 3 days ago

I wasn’t cherry picking. The assertion was nothing was available on other platforms.

And my pushback didn’t say everything was.

[–] clf@mastodon.bsd.cafe 3 points 4 days ago (1 children)

@paraphrand @that_leaflet @apple_enthusiast you can use Apple Music in the browser just so you know.

[–] paraphrand@lemmy.world 3 points 4 days ago (1 children)

Same with many (most) iCloud things.

[–] Oiselarius@dice.camp 1 points 4 days ago (1 children)

@paraphrand @clf @apple_enthusiast my only real problem with iOS/macOS is that iWork isn’t ODF compatible which makes it useless for me as I collaborate.

[–] paraphrand@lemmy.world 1 points 4 days ago (1 children)

It’s strange that this far on, that wouldn’t have been added yet. Even in a usable, but not nice to use way.

[–] Oiselarius@dice.camp 1 points 4 days ago

@paraphrand totally agree. I don’t understand the thinking behind “walled garden” software.

[–] nokturne213@sopuli.xyz 14 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago)

I moved from an android to iPhone, I was still using a lot of Google apps because that is where all my stuff was. I am changing everything over to proton that I can.

[–] R3D4CT3D@midwest.social 14 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago)

convenience is my guess, since so many ppl are in the google/gmail ecosystem. it just makes sense for most to be part of the same for communication purposes. i mean, it makes sense, but it sucks.

been slowly helping ppl in my circle of influence, which is mostly comprised of ios/mac users, ween off the google teet & helping them dip their toes in the open source world. it’s an uphill battle, but one i’m willing to fight.

[–] Lyubo@lemmy.ml 4 points 3 days ago

Familiarity 🤷🏻‍♂️

[–] fourish@lemmy.world 7 points 4 days ago (4 children)

Google authenticator is garbage. Authy is much better.

[–] jakeyounglol@lemm.ee 9 points 4 days ago

apple has a 2FA app built into icloud keychain

[–] trevor@lemmy.blahaj.zone 5 points 3 days ago

Authy is garbage too. You're just one small step away from SMS 2FA and your keys are held by Twilio, who has been breached.

Ente Auth is e2e encrypted, zero-knowledge, and cross-platform if you want a secure and convenient authenticator.

[–] DankOfAmerica@reddthat.com 5 points 3 days ago

Can you elaborate? To me, all of the TOTP authentication apps I have used are nearly identical aside from some minor aesthetics.

[–] nokturne213@sopuli.xyz 2 points 3 days ago (2 children)

How does Authy compare to 2FAS Auth? I switched to that when I replaced my android with an iPhone.

[–] EncryptKeeper@lemmy.world 2 points 2 days ago (1 children)

I switched from Authy to 2FAS. Stick with 2FAS

[–] nokturne213@sopuli.xyz 1 points 2 days ago

Thanks that is the feeling I am getting.

[–] Chronographs@lemmy.zip 2 points 3 days ago

I used both and prefer 2fas

[–] acosmichippo@lemmy.world 8 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago)

we use google stuff for work, that's the only reason I have them.

as for average people, because they are free and almost no one cares about data monetization.

[–] navi@lemmy.tespia.org 5 points 4 days ago

Because until recently (last few years) Apple's online (website based) game for things like iCloud Photos was weak as hell.

[–] Soup@lemmy.world 5 points 4 days ago

Often times it’s because other people are using it. Those people can’t use iCloud but I can use Google Docs and stuff. Hell, my MacBook can hang with my phone but my own PC isn’t connected, either. And then after that, are you really gunna expect most people to use and manage two different systems?

I use iCloud for photos, Safari on my phone and laptop because they’re connected easily that way, and have a few important documents on iCloud as well like all my stuff for job applications or sheet music so that I have access if I need that stuff elsewhere. And yet I still have Google drive for some things and use Google Sheets because it’s easy to share.

Not understanding why someone might not go all-in on a specific brand is more of a lack of imagination on your part than some failing on theirs.

[–] orcrist@lemm.ee 1 points 3 days ago

If the apps work, the platform is irrelevant, my friend. Also, some of is have Apple products at work that we did not choose, so we just go with it.

[–] reddig33@lemmy.world 3 points 4 days ago (3 children)

Looks work-related. Your average person isn’t going to install “Authenticator” for fun.

I think most people just install the TOTP app that they're told to. They probably don't even know that there's a choice.

[–] accideath@lemmy.world 6 points 4 days ago

A lot of non work related accounts are switching to 2FA and Google authentication is the most well known compatible app. Most definitely not the best though.

[–] dev_null@lemmy.ml 1 points 3 days ago

Huh, my authenticator app has 16 accounts in it, all personal stuff. Discord, a video game account, government tax account, etc.

[–] satanmat@lemmy.world 3 points 4 days ago (1 children)

Gmail app because it is better with Gmail than mail.app

And google calendar because our house runs on our shared calendars.

But none of the others as Safari is fine for any other web stuff. And in try to avoid other crap as much as possible.

And now that Passwords does MFA there’s no reason for Authenticator

[–] jakeyounglol@lemm.ee -1 points 4 days ago (1 children)

you should switch over to icloud mail. it’s way better

[–] KoalaUnknown@lemmy.world 4 points 3 days ago

Switching over is a lot easier said than done.

[–] some_guy@lemmy.sdf.org 0 points 3 days ago (1 children)

I can use Google Maps on my Mac without wanting my OS to be trash. What's your point?

[–] Shezzagrad@lemmy.ml 3 points 3 days ago

I have Maps installed but never use it. I have Chat installed for that one weird friend who only has Google Chat because she says all her friends are there.

[–] nicerdicer@feddit.org 0 points 3 days ago

I can elaborate why I have Google Maps installed on an iPhone, despite that I can use Apple Maps, which is pre-installed:

Google Maps is way better in announcing directions when travelling with a car, because it announces several times ahead: at 4 km before an intersection, at 800 m and finally when to actually drive through an intersection. This is more helpful than Apples announcement, which is just once a few kilometers ahead of the point where to change direction. Also, intersections are depicted more clearly in Google Maps.

Additional to that, I find that the woman from Google sounds way more nicer than that bitch from Apple. Apples voice has a pissed-off undertone, probably because it needs to tell you directions in the first place.

On the other hand, the street-view feature is better on Apple Maps.

[–] kratoz29@lemm.ee 0 points 4 days ago (1 children)

I understand the purpose of the Google app on Android, but what is the purpose to have the effort of installing it in iOS while you have "the power of Google" in safari or whatever browser you use?

[–] const_void@lemmy.ml 0 points 4 days ago (1 children)

Yeah that’s what I don’t get. Who are all these people installing the Google app on their iPhones?

[–] cbarrick@lemmy.world 3 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago) (1 children)

The Google app is often used as a web browser by the tech-illiterate.

It even has tabs.

This is how my grandparents use it.

[–] IamAnonymous@lemmy.world 2 points 4 days ago

I have also seen people go to Google.com on Safari to search.