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[–] skeezix@lemmy.world 12 points 5 days ago (3 children)

What’s wrong with the Chevy Impalas?

[–] sepi@piefed.social 8 points 5 days ago

Have you ever tried parking one?

They're made by GM

[–] badhops@sh.itjust.works 2 points 4 days ago

0 turn radius

[–] NotMyOldRedditName@lemmy.world 10 points 5 days ago (2 children)

Doesn't this seem a little risky given their success against the Russian ships?

It's such a huge amount of money that can be taken down by a swarm of water and or air drones.

[–] Jumi@lemmy.world 1 points 1 day ago

Just put so many CIWS on it that it looks like a hedgehog

[–] prettybunnys@sh.itjust.works 5 points 4 days ago (1 children)

Yep.

That said I see this as an absolute victory for Ukraine.

They are building a modern navy, if they can equip and defend their ports with a new navy while destroying their aggressors capability it sends a pretty powerful message.

[–] HubertManne@moist.catsweat.com 3 points 4 days ago (1 children)

Honestly I don't see the point. I think they should just specialize in lean and mean equipment like drones since their position just has to worry about the black sea. let the big nations on the atlantic and pacific worry about having a manned navy.

[–] prettybunnys@sh.itjust.works 1 points 4 days ago (1 children)

So they can defend against Russia in the future.

The Black Sea is vital for trade for them.

[–] HubertManne@moist.catsweat.com 1 points 4 days ago (1 children)

yeah but arial and sea drones seem better for that.

[–] thebestaquaman@lemmy.world 1 points 3 days ago

It seems to me that the drones they're using to huge effect have proven very effective at piecemeal strikes that chip away at the enemy one ship at a time, at very low cost in both manpower and money.

Drones cannot at present replace manned vessels in conducting long-time operations or area control. Stuff like continually patrolling and protecting offshore installations, preventing the enemy from laying minefields, or escorting convoys are still stuff you need manned surface vessels for.

Whether those tasks are something the Ukrainian navy should be prioritising at the moment is a fair discussion to have though. Two corvettes is likely still short of what is needed to contest general control of the Black Sea, even against Russias crippled Black Sea fleet.