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[–] GaMEChld@lemmy.world 19 points 3 days ago (1 children)

I think they might also need to maybe leave work at a reasonable time.

[–] CanadaPlus@lemmy.sdf.org 6 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago)

And not get molested the whole way home by some guy that thinks he's in the old boy's club. And not get fired because they're a married woman now, and need to stay home (literally normal there).

Like, people are losing interest in kids everywhere, but in the core Western countries nobody's nervous to get married because they get socially demoted in the process. That's a theme I've definitely heard from women over there, and probably why it's happening faster.

[–] nutsack@lemmy.world 34 points 4 days ago

yes. damn. what an idea

[–] john89@lemmy.ca 20 points 3 days ago

They... they could've done this the entire time?

[–] A_Filthy_Weeaboo@lemmy.world 42 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago) (5 children)

Also...loosen immigration laws?

I know it's a very closed off nation with deep cultural roots that is very weary of outsiders...

[–] OmegaLemmy 21 points 4 days ago (1 children)

I don't mind finding work in Japan... ...if it wasn't so hostile to workers

So far, Japan is near the bottom of my list for western countries to work at, and I would much rather find a job in Korea instead

[–] Xatolos@reddthat.com 40 points 4 days ago (7 children)

Japan is near the bottom of my list for western countries

Japan is an Eastern country. In fact, it's the farthest East county possible.

I think the words you were looking for were "first world countries".

[–] EddoWagt@feddit.nl 9 points 3 days ago (2 children)

Japan is an Eastern country. In fact, it's the farthest East county possible.

No love for New Zealand huh?

[–] JoeBigelow@lemmy.ca 7 points 3 days ago (2 children)
[–] BeardedGingerWonder@feddit.uk 10 points 3 days ago

Checked my map, it's not there

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[–] Xatolos@reddthat.com 4 points 3 days ago

New Zealand? What's that?

[–] BigBananaDealer@lemm.ee 18 points 4 days ago (5 children)

its so east that it loops back around to being west

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[–] Noodle07@lemmy.world 22 points 4 days ago (4 children)

Racist, the word is racist

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[–] AnUnusualRelic@lemmy.world 3 points 3 days ago

That's crazy talk, you'd get lot's of filthy foreigners in that way.

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[–] Phen@lemmy.eco.br 132 points 5 days ago (2 children)

Why is it framed like it's something extreme?

[–] uranibaba@lemmy.world 24 points 4 days ago

I read it as snark/sarcasm. Like they are adding something that already should be.

[–] MisterFrog@lemmy.world 11 points 4 days ago

This was my reaction also. WoOoAh! Free daycare? How radical!! Haha

[–] riodoro1@lemmy.world 64 points 4 days ago (1 children)

Oh fuck, oh fuck, our ponzi scheme is about to enter the find out phase.

[–] Fisch@discuss.tchncs.de 44 points 4 days ago (20 children)

Capitalism is totally different from a ponzi scheme. In a ponzi scheme, the profits go up to the person at the top and you always need new people that come in, otherwise the whole thing will fall apart and the people at the bottom will be the ones that suffer. Under capitalism however, the profits of everyone's work will go up to the top and you always need new workers to come in, otherwise the system will fall apart and the people at the bottom will suffer. Totally different.

[–] john89@lemmy.ca 6 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago)

Hm. There is a difference.

Once crapitalists run out of "new horizons" to "expand" into, they start cannibalizing their current workforce and raise prices while lowering quality for customers.

Do not be fooled. Quality is going down because profits are going up.

[–] UltraGiGaGigantic@lemmy.ml 4 points 3 days ago (1 children)

otherwise the system will fall apart and the people at the bottom will suffer.

Don't you mean "suffer more"?

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[–] Skyrmir@lemmy.world 136 points 5 days ago (1 children)

Decent first step, but it's going to take an actual investment in making parenthood desirable.

[–] cRazi_man@lemm.ee 82 points 5 days ago (4 children)

Parenthood is already desirable. There's a biological drive and social conditioning to desire it for most people. The disincentives have just become overwhelming. Children take a hell of a lot of resources. Every aspect of modern society has drained all the time, money, energy, emotional resiliance, social support, etc that people need.

[–] anachronist@midwest.social 50 points 5 days ago (1 children)

Also the future is bleak in the poly-crisis.

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[–] TonyOstrich@lemmy.world 31 points 5 days ago (1 children)

I'm logically aware that's the case for other people, but I find it perplexing why often times. I was sterilized in my mid 20s, and I haven't ever regretted it.

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[–] WalnutLum@lemmy.ml 104 points 5 days ago (3 children)

Daycare/Kindergarten is already free across the country for all children starting at 3 years old.

All child healthcare is also free after a prefecture-set monthly premium (usually about 1000 yen).

This policy announcement is specifically about making the 0-3 year old gap free.

Honestly I'd rather just see the government pay more into the shakai hoken (the national insurance that pays for mother/father leave) so people can take more time off from work early on in the kids' lives.

Making it easier for parents to go back to work instead of focusing what's good for children and parents seems par for the course.

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[–] BKXcY86CHs2k8Coz@sh.itjust.works 118 points 5 days ago (2 children)

Capitalism literally has failed the human race

[–] PunnyName@lemmy.world 54 points 5 days ago

Always has.

[–] skeezix@lemmy.world 10 points 4 days ago (1 children)

Who wants to have kids in a place where you’re expected to work 18 hours a day?

[–] DeadWorldWalking@lemmy.world 7 points 4 days ago (1 children)

I will never have a child if they have to work 5/7ths of their life away just to scrape by like me.

That's no way to live.

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[–] lnxtx@feddit.nl 53 points 5 days ago (3 children)

Wait until they will discover affordable housing thing.

[–] regul@lemm.ee 25 points 5 days ago (5 children)

Housing in Tokyo is known for being relatively affordable, actually.

[–] bountygiver@lemmy.ml 25 points 5 days ago (1 children)

ya it's funny when you watch some videos about "small apartments" in tokyo and only to realize they are still more cheaper and spacious than some NA options in big cities.

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[–] Garibaldee@lemm.ee 23 points 5 days ago (3 children)

Wait until you find out it is normal to tip your landlord there

https://www.interlinkjapan.com/blog/renting/key-money

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[–] kalleboo@lemmy.world 19 points 5 days ago

Housing is pretty affordable in Japan since housing in Japan is not an investment, it depreciates like a car (only the land has value, the house ontop of it has literally negative value since it's assumed anyone will want to bulldoze it), and their lax zoning allows for continual densification to happen.

[–] ininewcrow@lemmy.ca 35 points 5 days ago (7 children)

What governments and corporations never understand and will never want to understand is that ....

... it isn't about the quantity of life ... or even the quantity of people who are alive or are born

... it's about the quality of life

If everyone lives a comfortable, safe and fulfilling life without risk of poverty or losing everything they have, then they are more likely to have children and raise them to become productive people who will contribute to society.

Otherwise if you don't take care of people, they will either have no children or a bunch of children that will all grow up to become a burden to society.

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[–] FuryMaker@lemmy.world 6 points 3 days ago

Japan: Nah, we're good.

[–] metaStatic@kbin.earth 31 points 5 days ago (5 children)

four-day workweek

/me franticly googling rents in Japan

[–] ImplyingImplications@lemmy.ca 34 points 5 days ago (2 children)

The way I've heard it said is "if you live in a developed country, you could probably afford to move to Japan right now. If you get a job in Japan, you'll never afford to move back."

Japan's cost of living is low compared to developed nations, but their average income is also low for a developed nation.

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[–] skillissuer@discuss.tchncs.de 22 points 5 days ago

rent is cheapish, it's everything else that will get you. if you're fine with crushing and all-permeating conformism, ridiculous degree of nationalism and misogyny, how you won't be ever accepted as one of their own as foreigner and famously toxic work culture, feel free to give it a shot

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