Now would be a good time for a reminder that there is no such thing as a moral billionaire. Scientifically, sane people retire to lives of luxury with their families long before they reach that level of wealth. The only reason to seek such wealth is out of a sick desire to control other human beings. Religiously, scripture says that there are no wealthy people in paradise. In the end, they all burn. Scientifically or religiously, you do not become a billionaire unless there is something broken in your soul.
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That's why it says the oft misquoted "the love of money is the heart of all evil." That "love" is the key part of that equation.
I went to a religious school and the rationalizing the needle's eye story was pretty hilarious. I think the message is pretty blindingly clear and doesn't require a whole lot of interpretation but holy cow do Christians work to make it mean something completely different.
How has 'what is moral' come to be scientifically settled?
Different cultures across the world have different morals. Yet for this statement to be true, there must be an agreed scientific consensus on a quantitative metric and its impact on a fundamentally unscientific det of cultural rules.
The appeal to scientific authority in this statement undermines a good moral argument to be made about inequity and excessive individual rights to property.
This is just a call to some pop-science, at best, meant to engage the rage. It has no better scientific basis than trickle down economics does.
Do not put words in my mouth. I said nothing of scientific morality.
I said that different people work for different reasons. Sane people work to achieve the necessities of life, providing a means to support themselves and their families. Sane people, with healthy relationships and interests, value things other than work. Once you have enough to live in luxury for a dozen lifetimes, you are no longer pursuing things like friends, family, hobbies, etc. You are instead working primarily because you are a psychopath who gets off on lording power over others. The only thing that billions in wealth gets you is power and influence over others. That's literally its only utility.
There are no moral billionaires. If you seek that level of wealth, there is something fundamentally broken in your soul. You need to be involuntarily committed to an insane asylum, as you are pathologically addicted to money and power.
Claiming a scientific authority that doesn't exist and someone calling you on it, isn't putting words in your mouth. Its a reaction to an unjustified claim to authority, that undermines that authority when it is actually appropriate.
It also undermines your own argument. Its good to see you're reply shifted position.
Now would be a good time for a reminder that there is no such thing as a moral billionaire.
Honestly, the closest you come is Notch. Started making a game, got tons of streamer attention, hired some people to help with dev, eventually sold to Microsoft. That was the moment that he went from "made some money off his project" to billionaire in a single leap and also the point he functionally retired.
Has some shitty views, but doesn't actually involve himself in politics so they're just his views and not anything he's actively pushing on anyone else. Despite those views, I still think it was shitty of MS to remove mention of him from his creation and not invite him to the 10th anniversary celebration of same.
This is the MacKenzie Scott defense.
The problem is that donating to normy billionaire charities just feed the beast. If Mackinzie or Notch or whoever really wanted to change the status quo they should, for instance, put all the money into strike funds.
MacKenzie could have taken all those billions she got out of Jeff and put it all into giving his workforce the resources they need to organize. That would have been the biggest F-you she could have given him and also the most impactful thing she could have done with the money, to our society. But she didn't do that because she has Billionaire brain and will never see the workers that got her that money as being worthy of any support and instead she puts it all into bougie micro-lending banks probably run by consulting class assholes.
Yeah that's really the one exception - people that win some sort of metaphorical lottery and overnight rocket from "can't retire yet" money to billionaire over night.
He stole the source code from Hatsune Miku
Yes, yes! I knew it would work. Seems like pretty much everybody got the same idea at the same time and it's working a treat. If you can't defeat your enemies, turn them against each other!
Actually was more so dems understanding the situation were in
The “President Musk” messaging is by design, at least partially. This week, according to a source with direct knowledge of the matter and another person briefed on it, at senior levels of different Democratic congressional offices, and also within the Democratic National Committee, discussions have been had about having party leaders and elected officials actively portray Musk as effectively Trump’s boss, and to do so during television appearances that the president-elect is likely to see. The idea is that it’s a cost-free opportunity to potentially drive a petty wedge between the notably mercurial and ego-obsessed Trump and his similarly emotive pal Musk, and to sow some chaos in the upper ranks of the Republican Party.
https://www.rollingstone.com/politics/politics-news/president-musk-dems-troll-trump-elon-1235211922/
Did the DNC just have a competent plan to attack the GOP?
No, just Musk.
Pretty easy strategy to execute on when Elon's hovering around trying to micromanage.
Trump's transition people were leaking that they were sick of Elon like 3 days after the election.
This is the guy Tesla and SpaceX employees have accused of "seagull management" (flies in, shits all over everything).
He sucked at running twitter, but he's the GOAT at running the Whites Only House. Three cheers for President Musk
Hopefully will kick out the orange man, then
"I AM SPARTACUS!".
"NO YOU ARE NOT! I AM SPARTACUS!".
"NUH-UH!"
"AM SO!"
"Bruh, what are these dorks going on about? Pass me another brew and fire up that J."
Good..I hope they tear each other to pieces.
maybe we'll be lucky and they'll be too busy tearing each other apart that they won't have time to tear this country apart.
The narcissists are fiiiightiiiiing!
"I am an alpha male."
Time to lean fully into this: Elon is doing all this to expose the ridiculous control money has over politics
Oooooooo, President Elon is gonna be pissed at poor man Trump and cut off his funding.
Trump better shape up and kiss the ring.
Yeah, how dare Trump talk to his superior, Elon Musk, like that?? It’s unconscionable!
I predicted this a while back: Having two thin-skinned megalomaniacs working together never works out in the long run. Trump and Elon are both too dysfunctional even to be able to work individually with patient people without it going off the rails. Having them working together with each other is doomed to explosive failure eventually.
The funny part is Trump doesn't even take office for another month, the relationship might fall apart before he's even inaugurated and actually in power, let alone lasting "long term".
Did someone say murder-suicide?
Yessssss poke the thin skinned bears... Have them tear each other apart
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It would be helpful to constantly remind Donnie that Musk is about 100 times richer than him, too.
Probably more considering that Trump's wealth is based on lies
And Musk's isn't?
The whole Tesla bubble is all lies all the way. I don't follow other companies, but I would expect it to be the same.
His is stock valuation, Trump's is home made real estate valuation.
Sounds like he might be easy to manipulate by the media.
Did you hear that Trump is just following orders from the religious right, that Christian nationalists are the true president? All his anti abortion and anti socialism stuff is just following orders from his master.
So we really did get our second African American President.
First illegal immigrant President, too.
wHeRe'S tHe BiRtH cERtIfIcAtE
Something wrong with your eyes, Bizzle? It's right here. *hands over a fat wad of cash*
Did it stop being president Putin, or is Trump just getting spitroasted by both of them simultaneously?
I would like to return one mental image please
It’s intriguing, though, who’s in front, who’s in the back, and does it even mean anything?
This dude is so fucking easy to manipulate.
Really, the exact trait that I want in a leader 🙄
If he's so easy to manipulate, then why don't you do it?
No seriously please, help us.
Its the ones comfortable with manipulating people that are precisely what we do not want help from
I predict this will be an ongoing but toxic thing, like a really bad relationship between two people who just won’t break up.
They’ve essentially married themselves to each others’ power… But also, they literally need entire media platforms to stroke their egos.
I would think Trump pretending to be fabulously wealthy but being exposed as a populist grifter, and Elon being the richest guy in the world, would hang in the air like Trump's stench.
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