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[–] xenomor@lemmy.world 198 points 1 week ago (4 children)

I’m glad congressional Democrats are finally taking steps to deal with their sclerotic, ineffective and increasingly out-of-touch leadership and building a future with younger—oh wait.

[–] ceenote@lemmy.world 72 points 1 week ago (3 children)

The thing that made me so pessimistic about the future of this country was when I learned that the people who advised Hillary's 2016 campaign were still advising Harris' 2024 campaign. They failed multiple times and the consequences have been catastrophic, but they held on to their positions anyway. I have no reason to think they won't be back in 2028, because the people who have a say in who gets party leadership are people selected by the old leadership. We need a borderline hostile takeover of the Democrat party, and after Trump did it to the Republicans, the existing powers in the Democrat party only entrenched themselves further.

[–] givesomefucks@lemmy.world 32 points 1 week ago (1 children)

the people who advised Hillary’s 2016 campaign were still advising Harris’ 2024 campaign.

And still running the DNC.

Biden and Kamala inherited everything from Hillary, the people behind the scenes are the same, and are still likely listening to Hillary

She's like our Dick Cheney

[–] chaogomu@lemmy.world 13 points 1 week ago (5 children)

I'd almost believe that Hillary ordered her people to sabotage the campaign if it wasn't the exact same "centrist" message the establishment Dems have been pushing since Carter.

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[–] Ensign_Crab@lemmy.world 24 points 1 week ago

They failed multiple times and the consequences have been catastrophic,

They succeeded in the only thing that matters to Democratic leadership: They kept a progressive from winning the nomination.

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[–] TropicalDingdong@lemmy.world 47 points 1 week ago (2 children)

The future of this country is not in the hands of the Democratic party if this is the way of things.

[–] UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 52 points 1 week ago

Leadership Democrats: Fumble the ball for three downs, then throws an interception

"Well, its no longer my fault if the opposition scores."

[–] corsicanguppy@lemmy.ca 16 points 1 week ago (1 children)

The democrats still think the populace is smart enough to look at the alternative and choose the less-worse option.

The country proves them wrong at every turn.

[–] TropicalDingdong@lemmy.world 20 points 1 week ago

The democrats still think the populace is smart enough to look at the alternative and choose the less-worse option.

The problem is this attitude and the literally brain dead take that this is in any way strategic voting.

Democrats are a "barely, sometimes maybe not, less-worse option". And they get to stay that way by constantly being presented as the "less-worse" option. But they aren't. They are the enablers of the "more-worse" option every time. They sell out their base at every turn.

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[–] TropicalDingdong@lemmy.world 137 points 1 week ago (17 children)

Shit like this (Pelosi putting her thumb on the scale) is why people are questioning if they'll ever vote Democrat again.

[–] FuglyDuck@lemmy.world 46 points 1 week ago

if trump keeps his promise- and this is one time I actually believe him- we won't ever have to vote democrat again!

(because he'll fuck over democracy and make that illegal.)

[–] Semi_Hemi_Demigod@lemmy.world 25 points 1 week ago (11 children)

I don’t see an alternative and it’s making me hate democracy.

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[–] tiredofsametab@fedia.io 23 points 1 week ago (1 children)

You can add me to the list. I voted democrat this previous election in an effort to prevent *gestures around* this, but I didn't want to for a number of reasons. I don't trust the green party with Stein. I have no idea what I will do next election. I always vote for the most progressive "local" (I'm an overseas voter, but as long as I have to file taxes and get fucked by the IRS by not being able to use retirement accounts here, I'mma vote) candidate, but I don't think I've ever seen anything other than D and R in my district except maybe an I once or twice.

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[–] octopus_ink@lemmy.ml 15 points 1 week ago

Shit like this (Pelosi putting her thumb on the scale) is why people are questioning if they’ll ever vote Democrat again.

Yep, 100% this is at Pelosi's feet. Fuck Nancy Pelosi, and honsestly fuck every D Boomer in congress who won't get out of the way for the younger generations. You are actively holding us back.

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[–] Maggoty@lemmy.world 116 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (2 children)

AOC runs several investigations that lead to results.

Connelly... Is old and has seniority.

Great fucking job Democrats. Getting my seat warmer ready for ~~2022~~ 2026 already!

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[–] TheReturnOfPEB@reddthat.com 85 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (53 children)

AOC should abandon the Democratic party. She should join Bernie as an god-damned Independent.

[–] CosmicTurtle0@lemmy.dbzer0.com 101 points 1 week ago (1 children)

She and Bernie should start a progressive party.

I'm tired of Democrats bowing to oligarchs.

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[–] buddascrayon@lemmy.world 66 points 1 week ago (5 children)

"Everyone sort of made the case that they would be the best to help change the message across the country. ... He's a very good communicator," said Beyer.

Oh yeah that's exactly what's going to fix the problem Democrats have. Electing another old ass Clinton era Democrat to a position of power. It's not like everybody's pissed at them for losing the Presidency, the House, and the Senate all in one go.

[–] Ensign_Crab@lemmy.world 27 points 1 week ago

It’s not like everybody’s pissed at them for losing the Presidency, the House, and the Senate all in one go.

With their amazing communication skills.

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[–] MagicShel@lemmy.zip 64 points 1 week ago (2 children)

AOC loses key vote in House Oversight race to Gerry Connolly

[–] FuglyDuck@lemmy.world 60 points 1 week ago (1 children)

an Old. White. man.

Seriously. It's pissing me off; more so the republicans doing it. we need minority voices. We can't expect the republicans to do it- lets just be honest here. and I doubt very much if Connolly will be able to push back nearly as much as AOC can and will. (never mind, whether or not he's willing.)

[–] Irremarkable@fedia.io 27 points 1 week ago (4 children)

An old white man with cancer that he announced a month ago. He should be focusing on his treatment, not adding more to his plate.

[–] Zaktor@sopuli.xyz 14 points 1 week ago (1 children)

What the fuck? This is a special dipshit cherry to put on top of just automatically choosing the oldest option. Even if the leadership still hate AOC, choose someone who's definitely going to be at the top of their game, not award important positions to so he can be proud while taking time off for his pressing health needs.

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[–] UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 35 points 1 week ago (3 children)

Gerry Connolly

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gerry_Connolly

The Congressman's Congressman. He represents the district right outside DC. Also, prior to running for office he worked as an aide to the United States Senate Committee on Foreign Relations where he managed committee oversight of international economic issues, international narcotics control, and United Nations and Middle East policies, and published reports on U.S. policy in El Salvador, Central America, Israel, and the Persian Gulf region.

So, expect a guy who will toe the line on all our accumulated foreign policy blunders while banging a gavel to silence another generation of anti-war protesters.

It gets worse than that, of course.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gerry_Connolly#Legislation_sponsored

Sponsoring legislation with Darrell Issa - a shameless, virulent Silicon Valley shill of a politician - as Trump lards up his cabinet with Friends of Peter Thiel is a bleak sign for the future.

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[–] Melatonin@lemmy.dbzer0.com 60 points 1 week ago

HEADLINE: AFTER SEVERAL BEATINGS, DEMOCRATS LEARN NO LESSONS

More the stupid us for thinking things would be any different this time.

[–] Deceptichum@quokk.au 47 points 1 week ago (3 children)

Cool a 74 year old, that’s the life expectancy of a male in the US.

[–] Pistcow@lemm.ee 15 points 1 week ago (1 children)
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[–] pjwestin@lemmy.world 46 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (8 children)

A 74-year-old who is dying of cancer was chosen over a 35-year-old rising star at the insistence of an 84-year-old woman (who is currently undergoing hip replacement surgery) just months after an 81-year-old Presidential candidate was forced to drop out of the race because he showed sever symptoms of cognitive decline during a debate. If this were a satire about a gerontocracy, I would think it was too over the top.

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[–] ceenote@lemmy.world 41 points 1 week ago

This country is totally capable of fighting off creeping fascism. It's the Democrat leadership that's not up to the task.

[–] AbidanYre@lemmy.world 37 points 1 week ago (1 children)

What they're saying: Rep. Don Beyer (D-Va.), a Connolly ally, acknowledged Connolly's greater seniority likely played a role in his win but argued "it wasn't just that."

It wasn't just that. He also has a penis

[–] Ensign_Crab@lemmy.world 14 points 1 week ago

The only thing that mattered was that his opponent was a progressive.

[–] thisphuckinguy@lemmy.world 33 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

She lost to a 74yr old…yeah that guy needs to retire. Get out of the fucking way.

[–] Bronzebeard@lemm.ee 32 points 1 week ago

Democrats running out of foot to shoot themselves in

[–] Rapidcreek@lemmy.world 31 points 1 week ago (3 children)

Connolly had 34 and AOC had 27, but there is a full caucus vote tomorrow.

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[–] Rhaedas@fedia.io 24 points 1 week ago

One House Democrat aligned with Ocasio-Cortez told Axios that steering is "made up of the most senior members," making it not her most receptive venue.

Because having senior members has worked so well so far...I get senior also means experience, but we need some new blood too, not status quo. And the past experience so far with AOC's roles in committees shows she has what's needed.

[–] geneva_convenience@lemmy.ml 21 points 1 week ago

Gerry Connolly more like Gerry Atric.

If AOC sticks with the Democratic party instead of going independent she proves the DNC was right to deny her power. Why bother caving to AOC'S demands if she will keep sheepdogging people to the party and get nothing in return?

[–] Corigan@lemm.ee 18 points 1 week ago

The ghoul strikes again.

[–] inclementimmigrant@lemmy.world 17 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

Hence why I staunchly refuse to donate to Democrats currently. Fuck these old ass, no idea jackasses clinging onto old shit ideas and continuing to lose at every god damn level of politics.

I hope AOC continues to be a light and the fight in the Democratic party that doesn't deserve her.

[–] WatDabney@fedia.io 16 points 1 week ago

At this point, the most determined and successful opponent of progressivism in the US is the Democrat party.

[–] chilicheeselies@lemmy.world 15 points 1 week ago

After 2016, ive wondered for a while if it would have made more sense to run progressives in republican primaries instead of dem ones. We would probably have been better off if progressives took advantage of republican party weaknesses

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