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Summary

Rep. Nancy Mace, once supportive of LGBTQ rights, has shifted toward anti-transgender rhetoric, including sponsoring a Capitol bathroom ban targeting transgender women, such as Rep.-elect Sarah McBride.

Mace has cited personal safety concerns and her experience as a rape survivor to justify the ban, which critics argue is rooted in discrimination.

Protesters against the legislation led Mace to use a slur in response, sparking further controversy.

Previously, Mace supported LGBTQ rights and socially transitioning minors, but her recent actions reflect a sharp pivot amidst rising anti-LGBTQ sentiment in politics.

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[–] Nougat@fedia.io 71 points 1 week ago (3 children)

Mace has cited personal safety concerns and her experience as a rape survivor to justify the ban, which critics argue is rooted in discrimination.

I'm going to go out on a limb here.

Nobody whose aim is to go into a public restroom to be an attacker or sex pest is going to be deterred by a restroom ban against trans women. Let alone that such bans wouldn't even be a speed bump for people born into the matching gender to go into those restrooms and attack or pester.

If you use just one brain cell to consider this bullshit for even a Planck time moment, it's obviously purposefully oppressive.

[–] meco03211@lemmy.world 19 points 1 week ago (1 children)

There's one major flaw in your logic. Well more specifically, you're flaw is logic. The people that have been swayed into supporting anti-lgbt crap fundamentally cannot be swayed using logic. To them, there is some dark soulless creature whose only insurmountable obstacle to their pedophilic rape fantasy is their adherence to custom and standards of using the bathroom in line with their gender assigned at birth.

"But I covered that with the bit about predators attacking someone of the same gender in the bathroom they are unquestionably allowed in. Surely this will slip past their dense cognitive dissonance?" Oh you sweet summer child. How you've been duped to think anyone other than your fully red- blooded manly man attacking a young defenseless girl is possible. Young boys surely have the means and mentality to fight off an attacker. No no. It is only young girls needing protection from the big bad man. And how DARE you accuse them of being anti-lgbt for believing this way!

See the trick about these fucking imbecilic cretins is a complete dissociation from reality. The arguments I laid out above are almost verbatim what I got from a Facebook "friend". And he absolutely takes offense to being accused of being abti-lgbt. Sure he thinks trans-men are women and trans-women are men. But that's because he wouldn't date a trans-woman which means they can't be women. He either goes radio silent or quickly changes the subject when pressed for whether he would date a trans-man.

You can't bring logic to these fights. Fuck if I know what anyone could actually bring to convince them, but it sure as hell ain't logic.

[–] Nougat@fedia.io 10 points 1 week ago (1 children)

You can't bring logic to these fights.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Four_boxes_of_liberty

Soap, ballot, jury, cartridge. There's only one of these that hasn't yet been employed.

[–] knightly@pawb.social 2 points 1 week ago

Correction, there has been a very high-profile case of the fourth box being employed just this month. =3

[–] GBU_28@lemm.ee 17 points 1 week ago

I heard a comedian make this bit, and he acted the pedo "oh trust me, we were gonna go wherever we wanted".

Further, how many sex offenders did their deed while wearing some Mrs. Doubtfire slapped together disguise? I'm sure effectively zero.

[–] tiefling@lemmy.blahaj.zone 4 points 1 week ago

I will add as a trans person that we are already at significantly higher risk of violence against us just from existing. Why would anyone want to increase that risk even higher.

[–] SayJess@lemmy.blahaj.zone 34 points 1 week ago

What a piece of shit.

[–] zbyte64@awful.systems 25 points 1 week ago (2 children)

I was raised in a Christian private school back in the 90s. We were scared of gay people and little me thought it was because we were scared of being raped like in Sodom & Gomorrah. So I was surprised when the concern was not that we would get jumped by some gay man in the bathroom but between two consenting adults.

[–] ultranaut@lemmy.world 12 points 1 week ago

I also went through that and will never forget the sermon where the minister projected a medical diagram of a rectum and then repeatedly explained how God designed it as an exit only and anal sex will send you to hell. He wouldnt stop talking about it and kept making gestures. I was long over the BS by that point so I sat there awkwardly trying not to laugh through the whole thing.

[–] GBU_28@lemm.ee 11 points 1 week ago

Apparently Lindsey graham already has the under-stall-toe-tap thing down, guess he's afraid it might be a woman on the other side lol

(There's nothing wrong with being gay, I'm making fun of graham because he's a hateful fuck)

[–] lolcatnip@reddthat.com 21 points 1 week ago

Mace is a lying piece of shit who claimed she was "assaulted" when someone shook her hand, and then wore a sling to trick people into thinking she was injured.

[–] EleventhHour@lemmy.world 17 points 1 week ago

This is known as “speaking out of both sides of her mouth”

[–] ultranaut@lemmy.world 15 points 1 week ago

If they were genuinely motivated by the risk of kids getting raped they would be trying to ban youth ministers instead of trans people.