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[–] ellypony@lemmy.world 325 points 1 week ago (4 children)
[–] ramsorge 137 points 1 week ago (2 children)

Yeah they keep calling him radicalized. I just keep thinking this is a normal reaction and that corporate America and its shills are the radical ones.

[–] Jamablaya@lemmy.today 50 points 1 week ago (4 children)

"Would you shoot literal hitler in the back?" "Fuck yeah, bud" "Who radicalized you, everything that man did was legal"

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[–] Lost_My_Mind@lemmy.world 39 points 1 week ago (3 children)

I've read the manifesto. I have the same thoughts as you. I wonder with all these people calling him radical if maybe there's a fake manifesto out there. Something created JUST to make him sound crazy? That would explain the wildly different views of him being radical.

Remember, one month ago, the shooting hadn't happened yet. Nobody knew Luigis name or face. So if you go from not knowing he exists, to seeing him murder a guy, and then get told he has plans for domination, and kill all the people......it would be logical to understand why someone would call that perspective radicalized.

That's not what he is, or what he wrote, but if you read a fake manifesto, believed it to be real, that would explain people saying that.

Otherwise, I'm confused where "radicalized" comes from.

[–] NewDark@lemmings.world 39 points 1 week ago

The media attempting to paint a narrative. Consent manufacturering machine go brrr.

[–] abbadon420@lemm.ee 33 points 1 week ago

People don't read the manifesto, just the headlines calling him radicalised.

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Sadly reasonable conclusions based on reality is pretty based.

[–] SpicyLizards@reddthat.com 22 points 1 week ago

Oh no, reality is leaking into the media! We must stop this unapproved narrative!

[–] halykthered@lemmy.ml 16 points 1 week ago

Read that in his voice, well done.

[–] AlphaOmega@lemmy.world 166 points 1 week ago (8 children)

That's what reddit banned, it's so innocuous.

[–] rumba@lemmy.zip 157 points 1 week ago (1 children)

They didn't ban it because it was dangerous or violent, They banned it because the anti-corporate and spez is a musk wanna be

[–] spector@lemmy.ca 35 points 1 week ago

Thiel is one of reddits earliest investors. spez is a Thiel boy.

This whole time I can't believe how reddit managed to hold up a facade of being a cool progressive college student platform. They pulled the wool over everyone's eyes. It's as if they put lipstick on /pol/ and /b/. And everyone was like, alright a hip liberal platform. Sure if you ignore the iceberg of right wing bootlicking shit beneath the surface of the default subreddits.

[–] Draegur@lemm.ee 41 points 1 week ago

barbara streissand has taught them nothing apparently

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[–] IDKWhatUsernametoPutHereLolol@lemmy.dbzer0.com 130 points 1 week ago (12 children)

Yes it is. So what. The rich glorifies violence against the poor.

The leader of the country once said: "When the looting starts, the shooting starts"

So if its apparantly okay to use violence against alledged thieves (which is not okay btw, stealing should never equate a death sentence), then it must be okay to use violence against mass murderer CEOs.

"When the denying starts, the deposing starts" would be my rebuttal to that phase the ex-president said. Violence begets violence.

[–] finitebanjo@lemmy.world 16 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (2 children)

You get points for honesty, at least. Most people in here don't even admit this is a call for violence.

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[–] Semi_Hemi_Demigod@lemmy.world 107 points 1 week ago (2 children)

If sharing Luigi's manifesto is glorifying violence then so is sharing the Declaration of Independence.

[–] UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 18 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

If only Thomas Jefferson had somehow managed to cap a member of English Royalty. Instead, then Jefferson crossed the pond to suck up to Louis XVI, shortly before the man went full Ropespierre's Necktie.

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[–] Matombo@feddit.org 87 points 1 week ago (1 children)

note that reddit didn't have a problem with "orks must die jokes" or people celebrating war fotage as long as they celebrate the right peoples deaths

[–] ZombiFrancis@sh.itjust.works 19 points 1 week ago

Drone kill footage is like the reciepts of investment, if not the product itself.

[–] taanegl@lemmy.ml 69 points 1 week ago

Reddit gargles fascist schlong.

Nuff said.

[–] letsgo@lemm.ee 49 points 1 week ago

Of course not, it's just Spez sucking up to the billionaires in the hope that one of them will be dumb enough to toss him a few million for his shitpile.

[–] GrammarPolice@lemmy.world 48 points 1 week ago

Stop using Reddit

[–] TheReturnOfPEB@reddthat.com 45 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (3 children)

For a website with sections called nsfl and fight porn reddit takes a weird stance on manifestos.

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[–] pachrist@lemmy.world 43 points 1 week ago (4 children)

No, it's not.

It's an acknowledgement that there's a massive problem.

These companies are literally willing to bankrupt you to death. Their behavior is inexcusable. They profiteer off of human suffering.

We live in a country founded by people who were unhappy with the status quo and were willing to pick up a gun to change things. We shouldn't act surprised that it still happens. I don't think we should celebrate it, because it's sad that this is happening in the first place, that someone feels they need to do this. This problem is solvable, and it can be solved civilly, or it will be solved uncivilly.

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[–] metaStatic@kbin.earth 42 points 1 week ago (1 children)

I can't believe you've done this

[–] anarchrist@lemmy.dbzer0.com 37 points 1 week ago (8 children)

Is anyone with a pulse still on reedit? All I ever see there are AIO/AITA/best of creative writing exercises that reek of ChatGPT

[–] rumba@lemmy.zip 19 points 1 week ago

Reddit was full of false outrage and fake stories long before GPT ever existed. Just the last few people that were willing to post have kind of wandered off. I think we got the best of them here

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[–] Rooty@lemmy.world 40 points 1 week ago (3 children)

Constent manufacturing factory manufactures consent, millions shocked.

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[–] TheObviousSolution@lemm.ee 39 points 1 week ago (1 children)

See, then you are giving a murderer's message publicity. As opposed to UnitedHealthcare, responsible for far more many deaths, having the ability to have as much publicity and as many lobbyists as they want.

[–] Rivalarrival@lemmy.today 25 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (3 children)

Alleged murderer.

I think he is more than just the (relatively trivial) allegations against him. He has rallied support for massively reforming the American Healthcare system, which will save countless lives, improve our quality of life, and ensure the financial stability of the American Public.

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[–] 1984@lemmy.today 38 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (9 children)

I've definently noticed how more and more things are being disallowed to talk about on social media. It's just a matter of which platforms has which rules, but the rules are also changing as more and more people are complaining about reading things they don't agree with.

I suspect we will just discuss memes in the future, and politics, since politics is something that the leaders want us to care about and fight eachother over.

[–] Etterra 15 points 1 week ago

That's because America is the land of the free to shut up and do what you're told, or else.

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[–] ramsorge 33 points 1 week ago (2 children)

I mean, lots of .world communities will censor it too, and they’re still FEDerated.

[–] Jamablaya@lemmy.today 15 points 1 week ago (1 children)

I literally found my way here because of lemmy.world bullshit. No, discussing jury nullification isn't inciting to violence.

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[–] Gemini24601@lemmy.world 33 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Anyone with half a brain can see that it isn’t β€œglorifying” violence, it’s merely giving an explanation of why Luigi did what he did. Glorification would play more into pathos, but the manifesto is mostly ethos

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[–] peregrin5@lemm.ee 31 points 1 week ago (3 children)

Hi I’m new to Lemmy since Reddit decided to permaban me due to support I showed for Luigi. Good riddance to be honest. I should have fully quit when they shut down Apollo but didn’t know Lemmy existed.

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[–] selokichtli@lemmy.ml 30 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (2 children)

I've always thought well educated people have a great potential to be dangerous and achieve transcendental goals if organized. A group of engineers, of chemists, physicists, biologists, computer scientists after specific goals may be formidable enemies if they wanted. The 0.001%, the dirty rich, should now be aware.

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[–] Jumpingspiderman@lemmy.world 30 points 1 week ago

Fuck Reddit.

[–] Chozo@fedia.io 29 points 1 week ago (4 children)

Depends on the context in which you're sharing it.

If you share it with a title like "We need more of this", then yeah, because you're encouraging further acts like it. If you share it with a title like "This is the manifesto written by the alleged CEO killer", then that's not inherently glorifying violence, you're just sharing something you found and being informative. But if you share it in response to the question "Hey Reddit, what are some fun things I can do in NYC this weekend?", then you're back toward the "glorifying" side. Context makes all the difference.

Whether or not anybody gives a shit about that distinction, though, is a different question.

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[–] phoenixz@lemmy.ca 24 points 1 week ago

Reddit said so because it's CEO is known to be a greedy bastard who threw everything and everyone Bunder the bus for money. Luigi would not approve

[–] Bronzebeard@lemm.ee 23 points 1 week ago (2 children)

Reddit also thinks appealing a ridiculous van is harassment, so not exactly the brightest bulbs over there.

[–] ChildeHarold@lemm.ee 22 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Reddit sucks. They're the reason I came to Lemmy. They're absolute trash.

[–] MystikIncarnate@lemmy.ca 17 points 1 week ago (5 children)

I started to realize that the thing I liked about Reddit were the analytical and thoughtful people like me on the platform. When I came here, I found that many came over. When I visit Reddit, either because I'm nostalgic or because I have a specific need for something there, I'm finding more and more recent posts that are mostly filled with trash. Sure, some of the insightful, thoughtful and analytical people are still hanging around, but the vast majority has shifted away from that type of person. Reddit has also become so mainstream that is a stone's throw away from xitter or Facebook in terms of quality. Everyone and their mother is starting a Reddit account.

I miss when old.reddit.com was just reddit.com.

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[–] zkfcfbzr@lemmy.world 20 points 1 week ago (3 children)

They really couldn't figure out that that first [indecipherable] is "fourth"?

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[–] frog_brawler@lemmy.world 16 points 1 week ago (2 children)

Glorifying violence is A-Ok when the government awards people the Medal of Honor.

Reddit needs to come up with a more accurate excuse for their censorship.

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