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These are all benefits of funding, not private schools. And promoting private schools is how you get less funding for public schools.
Yep!
And everyone who's praising vouchers (in the US, anyway) need to know that that money is being redirected from an already under-funded public school.
ah yes, segregation by class. Certainly a better way for a better world. /s just in case
As with all things in life: if you're rich, you can get access to better things.
And, so, therein lies the problem with 'everyone should just go to a private school', unfortunately.
Rich people are badly out of touch. When I was in university there were some EXTREMELY wealthy young Indian women who couldn't fathom that not everybody (indeed not most people) had maids. "So do your maids have maids?" <blank, uncomprehending stare>.
Being wealthy is legit, I think, a disease and sadly it's not an infectious one. It operates in reverse from most destructive diseases.
I grew up surrounded by rich ~~assholes~~ people, and can anecdotally confirm that a lot of them, especially those born in it, live in a parallel world, so far removed from the average person's lives that they just can't relate, even if they try very hard. So few of them even seem able to (or want to?) realize how much of a kickstart they had in life just by being born in the right family, how much liberty they had having the opportunity to fail without ruining themselves.
We weren't private jet rich, but still, we went on family trips more often than my friends, had a big house, parents had nice cars, we partook in expensive competitive sports such as golf/tennis/ski, etc... Despite having pretty grounded parents, who taught us very young about how unconventional our lives were, I still severely underestimated the value of money in this world. I had a rude awakening when I met my now wife, who grew up in a much poorer environment. I cut contact with pretty much everyone from my childhood neighborhood.
This is casual conversation not casual conservative.
Definitely. @OmegaLemmy@discuss.online , which casual conversation are you wanting to have with this? It seems more fit for !unpopularopinion@lemmy.world
Background checks for every family and children
Because God forbid we let people grow, change, and have opportunity once they've paid their debts to society!
Check out this guy, advocating doing background checks on children.
Around here, private schools "care" about your children's education... Unless they have learning difficulties, then they don't want to deal with them. Its harder to flout high average grades when you have less then stellar students, you see... The teachers are also the exact same (ever so slightly worse pay, but better work environment), coming from the same universities and having the same educational program to follow. It does tend to be easier to have facilities and fancy activities when you're loaded from donations, rather than chronically underfunded by politicians who send their children to private schools.
Sooooo, the private school you went to in Turkey was better than public schools in the same area. That's a lot different than saying private schools are better, full stop.
Public schools in my area have 2, 3, 5, and 6 for example, with options for equivalent trips to 1.
Tut tut, I would expect someone with a private school education to not make claims built on such specious reasoning
Tut tut, I would expect someone with a private school education to not make claims built on such specious reasoning
Well, they did say the educational aspects were the least important, so perhaps your expectations are a wee bit too high?
I don't think we should have private schools. Letting rich people pull their kids out means those kids will benefit , and the rest won't. That's not a good outcome.
None of those things you list are inherent to public vs private. They just take money, and a lot of people are selfish and short sighted so they don't want to fund schools
If the private school is also for profit (likely), all that profit is waste and theft.
the best public school environments are in those which do not allow private schools. because funding matters.
We don't choose our blueberries. We take them all and do the best we can with each. Your kid's trip to New York, might cost the same as another kid's support services.
https://www.edweek.org/education/opinion-the-blueberry-story/2002/03
I'm Canadian. I went to public school. My school gave me trips to, among other places, Verdun, Marseilles, Paris, Venice, Florence, Pisa, and Berlin. Also my school gave us winter break ski events in Switzerland and Austria.
This was a public school, I remind you again.
But hey, I guess your trip to New York is pretty great too and well worth the obscene prices most private schools charge.
I hope they're better. I went to one and wasn't thrilled, so it would feel like I missed out if I went to a public one.
Went to one and it was literally no better than any public one I've ever attended and I've attended many. But Canada is saner about schools besides the whole parallel Catholic stuff
Yeah, that whole separate school board thing is ludicrous, especially given how the proportion of people identifying as Catholic in Canada has been on a steady decline since the 1950s. (I vaguely recall that being a drop from over 50% to under 30%, with 15% dropping in just the 2000s alone.)
It may be time to dismantle that wasteful system.