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[–] Stamets@startrek.website 92 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

If?

Also, they might wanna check inside Canada. Current leader of the Conservative party of Canada has been flirting with extremists. Seen palling around with people who want trans folks dead. Bringing up abortion debate. The man is dangerous and if allowed to continue then it's going to end up turning us into another American state. I'd like that not to happen. I'm tired of having to justify my existence as a gay man to people like him.

Fix our own shit please.

[–] MrGG@lemmy.ca 18 points 1 year ago (3 children)

Total tangent, but: the famous Stamets from Risa is also Canadian? 😀

[–] Stamets@startrek.website 20 points 1 year ago (10 children)

famous Stamets

You know I'm still trying to decide if being recognized constantly is a good or a bad thing lol

But yep. I'm Canadian, eh! Or b'y if you wanna be more accurate to my roots.

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[–] natarey@lemmy.world 80 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Always a great sign when your geopolitical neighbors quietly start planning for you to go full fascist.

[–] Harpsist@lemmy.world 14 points 1 year ago (4 children)

Canada also has plans for if America ever invades them.

But why would they? Let some other country mine resources that you buy at a steal.

[–] foggy@lemmy.world 16 points 1 year ago (4 children)

I actually have a crackpot theory that Trump's little attempt to buy Greenland (yeah, that happened) was really part of a plan Putin had dictated. And that Putin was trying to align USA+Greenland, Russia, and then Canada. Which is like 25% of Earth's land mass.

I base it on nothing more than maps and stuff.

Like if Putin is trying to play RISK...

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[–] muse@kbin.social 69 points 1 year ago (4 children)

Hope that involves a plan for letting lgbt folks immigrate to safety instead of apologizing 80 years later like they did to the casualties of Nazi Germany who were denied safe passage

[–] MossyFeathers@pawb.social 27 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (5 children)

I've heard Canadians claiming they're already letting LGBT folks from the US achieve refugee status, but that's strange because Canada has a treaty with the US explicitly stating that they can't take in refugees arriving from the US. So it seems like Canadian citizens think they're taking in LGBT refugees from the US, and will likely be confused and push back when people try to tell them that Canada literally can't take US refugees without the refugee doing a big, long legal song and dance. So my guess is that the Canada is going to claim they're already doing it (when they don't actually seem to) and then apologize again in 80yrs.

Edit: y'all wanna tell me how I'm wrong? As someone who's head will probably be on the chopping block should republicans win the next election, I would really like to know if I can count on Canada not turning me around should I find myself having to show up at the border with my belongings.

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[–] stephenc@lemmy.world 23 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Or essentially anyone who would be considered an enemy under a new alt-right regime, such as atheists.

Someone better take me in if shit goes south. I ain't staying here, and I'm too poor to move myself.

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[–] PetDinosaurs@lemmy.world 65 points 1 year ago (5 children)

I've already checked. I've got enough qualifications that I can just migrate to Canada.

It'll be nice to teach them about what their summers are going to be like.

[–] Mudface@lemmy.world 72 points 1 year ago (11 children)

Canada is going to elect a conservative government, too

[–] PP_BOY_@lemmy.world 79 points 1 year ago (13 children)

The whole world is shifting hard to the right. It's pretty crazy to see happen in real time.

Something something "weak men" something something "hard times"

[–] TrismegistusMx@lemmy.world 54 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (7 children)

Male fragility will kill us all.

[–] PP_BOY_@lemmy.world 14 points 1 year ago (26 children)

Male Fragility Will Kill Us All

You're a fool if you think that far-right conservatism is exclusive to men (or that only allowing women in power would solve it)

[–] PeepinGoodArgs@reddthat.com 24 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Women buying into patriarchy doesn't make it any less of a phenomenon or any less dangerous.

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[–] ikiru@lemmy.ml 36 points 1 year ago (10 children)

They don't need to elect anything. Fascism is inherently militaristic.

If the US goes full fascist, then it's only a matter of time.

No place in the world will be safe.

[–] fiat_lux@kbin.social 13 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Most places in the world were never safe from the US anyway, it has had aggressively competitive foreign policy for the last 80 years.

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[–] someguy3@lemmy.ca 13 points 1 year ago (5 children)

Poilievre isn't conservative. He's pretty much far right.

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[–] gamer@lemm.ee 48 points 1 year ago (1 children)

As an American, please nuke us if Trump wins the next election.

[–] PM_ME_FEET_PICS@sh.itjust.works 17 points 1 year ago (15 children)

I have some bad news for you.

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[–] millie@lemmy.film 45 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I'm both curious and personally invested on what their outlook on refugees would look like. I've definitely considered the possibility of having to flee to Canada as a trans woman, but I guess the question is how legitimately I'd be able to enter the country and whether I'd have to go into hiding once I get there.

[–] SpaceCowboy@lemmy.ca 26 points 1 year ago

Right now, yeah a trans person can seek asylum in Canada. But the leader of the Conservative Party is a culture war fashy type not too dissimilar from Ron Desantis. If he gets in, it'll be dark days north of the border too.

[–] dangblingus@lemmy.world 37 points 1 year ago (7 children)

I'm genuinely confused as to why, knowing that the Conservative/Republican brand has always been to serve big business, deregulating while also lowering taxes for the wealthy while cutting services to working class families, why people en masse would vote for them.

I get it, 2 sides of the same coin and all that jazz, but one side of the coin is just greedy, while the other side of the coin is greedy and is actively stoking the fires of a civil war.

[–] IHaveTwoCows@lemm.ee 15 points 1 year ago

Because they are evil. Evil does not have a reasonable motivation.

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[–] demlet@lemmy.world 34 points 1 year ago (2 children)

I'm guessing the whole world has been doing some hard mulling since 2016...

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[–] Powerpoint@lemmy.ca 31 points 1 year ago (1 children)

We need electoral reform to avoid the same in Canada. The official opposition is actively siding with fascists.

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[–] lennybird@lemmy.world 31 points 1 year ago (3 children)

I don't blame them. As an American I'm mulling the same.

I just hope their plan includes an asylum path for Americans sick of this doubling-down on ignorance. Not to say Canada isn't without their dumb dumbs either...

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[–] tallwookie@lemm.ee 28 points 1 year ago (6 children)

canada is more likely to split apart than take action on anything

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[–] FuglyDuck@lemmy.world 27 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Build a wall and make us pay for it!

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[–] itsgroundhogdayagain@lemmy.ml 20 points 1 year ago

let me in. LET ME IN!!!!!

[–] Roundcat@lemmy.ca 17 points 1 year ago (5 children)

Is it them taking a hard right authoritarian shift?

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It sucks that that’s where we are but it’s smart.

[–] Varyk@sh.itjust.works 13 points 1 year ago (12 children)

I mean, Canada might get there first, right? I feel like we both are not doing so hot.

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