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What about enterprise user and permissions management? AD is a draconic thicket of confusing spaghetti, but once setup it works. What’s the Linux alternative?

You are clueless if you think Linux is easier to support than Windows for anyone who isn't an engineer. You clearly have never had to support non technical users. 🤦‍♂️

Linux is free🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣 Nobody, and I mean nobody who has ever run a successful business had cared Jack shit over the $100 fee vs the 150k per head it's going to cost successfully maintain a usable LDE for an entire compan you'll never find viruses 🤣 good lord you've drank that koolaid.

Edit: ohhh fuck it's the guy hacking up his windows machine around his it teams back 🤣

Boy is on a quest to make THIS the heart of the Linux desktop.

Of my last 4 workplaces 3 of them used Linux, only one Windows. Guess which was the shitty one? Where everything needs 10x longer, and nothing worked.

The ones running on Linux also allowed MacOS desktops, which many liked. Linux definitely is a better and cheaper solution than Windows for the workplace, but you need technical expertise.

This post is laughable. I like Linux, it's very powerful, but it's like trying to daily drive a kit car. Shit falls apart constantly, and you need to be ready to dive into the guts of it to fix it. I wouldn't expect the people in accounting, or marketing, or whatever to be willing or able to do that.

Yes it's free, but how much will you spend in training, lost productivity due to down time, increased cost of IT time fixing everything?

Compile your own kernal, or build your own OS??? What a batshit idea. No company I have ever worked at would see that as a good use of time or money.

People just want to use simple tools that they are familiar with. That is Windows and Office.

I've got a Linux work server because VHDL simulations are hella expensive. I have to say that if your team isn't willing to RTF-Man pages, you end up with a lot of cargo cult CLI processes. No crystalized knowledge or training, it's hard to start up in it. It's enough that requiring explicit Linux experience for new hires is preferable. Windows sadly has the familiarity benefit. And don't get me started on the wacky custom solutions the IT set up circa 2002...

You get an IT staff that is MS and Windows certified, what sort of answer do you expect them to give? As far as IT staff where I worked, they often had issues with resolving Windows problems say nothing about Linux. Generally for Windows, I had to get to level 3 support before they knew anything. Even then I often had to tell them what needed to be done rather then them actually knowing. Some of this is lack of skill, some if it is under staffing, some of it is restrictive processes, and some organizational issues. You had to know how to work the system on one hand, and which issues just to not waste time on. Not saying they did not try hard, but without facilitation their results were often insufficient.

That does not mean you cannot use Linux however. Just means the main IT group does not support. We had a separate group that ran the Linux compute cluster we used. I also typically always had a Linux VM on my workstation too to use FOSS tools. Not sure that would be allowed these days since IT has gotten nuts about security, and with that they have generally grabbed a lot of power regarding what can and cannot be done on "their" hardware and on "their" networks. You can also get exceptions to a lot of those rules if you can justify it and if your management is willing to run it up the flag pole. If not, your working for the wrong people.

The problem we have were I work is that there is no company our company can buy the product to. Don't lough, we have a very hard time to convince them that we can support the thing for this reason. We are a team dedicated to the Linux support in the company though, so we have that at least.

The biggest difficulty to use Linux in a company is how the company usually work: they have a centralised database to manage user accounts and they usually use proprietary softwares for about everything : office, windows authentification and file servers, mails, etc. And they make it hard to use their stuff with free software. Teams for example barely works on chrome, and straight up doesn't on Firefox. You also need to setup your infrastructure for security and stupid vpn software the sales got sold on.

Economically I'm pretty sure it's still worth it, because our team is smaller than the windows team and everything is made for the windows infrastructure that we must plug into.

Oh and try to have almost any user use something else than office shit for desktop work, good luck for that. This is the biggest barrier for Linux use right now.

Wow. This whole discussion gave me flashbacks to Slashdot in the late 90's.

I work for a small company and I run Linux for work without issues. However we're small enough that we don't have an IT department. Most of our tools are web tools or are platform independent.

In contrast my girlfriend's company uses Windows over a remote connection via thin client. It's a high security job though most of her work is in Microsoft Office and SharePoint.

Setting her job up with only Linux would be a million times harder.