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[–] CuriousRefugee@lemmy.ml 336 points 1 month ago (7 children)

Damn that FDA and their suppression of...*checks list...sunshine?

Was the solar eclipse an inside job?!?

[–] Dasus@lemmy.world 103 points 1 month ago (6 children)

I think it's like the FDA having just reasonable guidelines on how much UV you can safely be exposed to. RFKJR prolly thinks sun lotion prevents all the healthiness from the sun and crystallises your amygdala or something along those lines.

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[–] Olhonestjim@lemmy.world 68 points 1 month ago (9 children)

It's quite likely a belief that sunscreen lotion is a bad thing that harms people. Found that one out from an old high school crush from FL. She looks like leather now.

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[–] GBU_28@lemm.ee 28 points 1 month ago (3 children)

When was the last time your big FDA doctor told you to sun your butthole? Why would they hide that from you?

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[–] ptz@dubvee.org 221 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (21 children)

In all that crazy, there's, shockingly, two good points:

  1. Psychedelics. There's at least anecdotal evidence they're good for treating certain traumas / PTSD. So, yeah, we should be looking into their medicinal applications. But is it the FDA or the DEA that's cockblocking those?

  2. Stem cells. Abso-fucking-lutely yes. But wasn't it the "pro life" people holding that up?

[–] Anticorp@lemmy.world 139 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Don't expect consistency from this administration.

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[–] FundMECFSResearch@lemmy.blahaj.zone 112 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (2 children)

Stem cells.

He’s not talking about the stem cells that can cure a select few diseases.

He’s talking about an alternative medicine thing which is basically sticking cells from your right arm into your left arm and calling it “stem cell therapy” then claiming it can cure hundreds of diseases.

There is zero evidence (or RCTs) showing his version of “stem cells” works.

The FDA bases approval on two highly successful phase 3 RCTs of a specific drug for a specific condition. You can read more about that process here

Neither psychedelics not RFK’s version of stem cell therapy has that yet.

[–] ptz@dubvee.org 41 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

Thanks for clarifying. I took the mention of stem cells in the wall of crazy tweet to be the more credible form of stem cell therapy. Considering I was fully aware of who was making the statement, the fault is mine.

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[–] Dasus@lemmy.world 46 points 1 month ago

I mean psychedelics really shouldn't be suppressed as much as they want, but with him gutting all actual medical science, they're not gonna be helping much.

They have tons of potential and power, but binging mushrooms for three days and dancing in circles isn't probably the only way we can utilise them. (I'm not saying it's a bad one, just not necessarily suited for everyone.)

And actually if psychedelics gets lumped into his shit it might just be a step back for research on psychedelics when eventually this craziness of his blows up in his face. Hopefully before he implements any of it. Or even gets into office.

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[–] zephorah@lemm.ee 211 points 1 month ago (4 children)

Vaccines are the laziest, lowest effort medicine we have. There is no medical treatment that is more effective for so little actual work on the part of the patient. Which is exactly the kind of medicine we need to have the greatest impact on the population base.

[–] julietOscarEcho@sh.itjust.works 51 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Even better than that. You take the medicine and it reduces everyone else's risk of getting sick, even the ones that refuse to take the medicine. It's the closest thing we have IRL to literal magic.

As an immunocompromised person, thank you to everyone who gets vaccinated against communicable disease, you make my world a little less heinous to navigate.

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[–] Lemminary@lemmy.world 49 points 1 month ago (4 children)

People like RFK don't get it. Also, has anyone seen a fucking microchip in a syringe... ever?

[–] zephorah@lemm.ee 34 points 1 month ago (4 children)

I think it’s a large variation of a syringe needle that chips our pets, but aside from that monstrously large setup that isn’t even used on humans, no.

Closest thing I can think of is the capsule sized camera that can be swallowed to collect data as it travels through that long tube that connect mouth to anus. Even then, I’ve never seen that setup used on anyone.

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[–] Rhaedas@fedia.io 146 points 1 month ago (1 children)

"You know what they call alternative medicine that works? Medicine."

[–] TIN@feddit.uk 33 points 1 month ago

Unexpected Tim Minchin!

[–] Grandwolf319@sh.itjust.works 135 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (5 children)

Wait so he is pro psychedelics?

Huh, it would be really weird if the US legalized acid.

If maga starts doing acid to own the libs maybe they would finally start questioning things.

I know I’m wrong, but one can hope can’t they?

[–] Psythik@lemmy.world 88 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Yeah this is actually really hopeful in a fucked up way. I really hope they legalize psychedelics. They are an extremely effective way to get people to stop voting republican. Worked for me. It woke something up in me that made me realize how selfish and self-serving that entire party is. I'm the only one in my family who no longer votes republican, and also the only one who has tried psychedelics. I think that says a lot.

[–] fossilesque@mander.xyz 29 points 1 month ago (6 children)

Honestly, some of these pricks could really probably benefit from getting out of their head for a bit lol.

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[–] Wojwo@lemmy.ml 117 points 1 month ago (2 children)

Stem cells? Does he know what party he's hitched his wagon to?

[–] booly@sh.itjust.works 65 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Oh, he knows. They took him on an airplane and made him eat food he had just called "poison" for a photo shoot.

He couldn't say no, because of the implication.

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[–] Big_Boss_77@lemmynsfw.com 29 points 1 month ago

Consistency? Not even once.

[–] thebardingreen@lemmy.starlightkel.xyz 99 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (3 children)

I actually met this mother fucker in Mexico in 1999, giving a talk on habitat preservation at Lagoona San Ignacio to a bunch of C list celebrities who were there to support the Natural Resource Defense Council and it's efforts to stop Mitsubishi from building a salt extraction plant in the middle of a gray whale breeding sanctuary (super good cause).

I was there with a bunch of high school students who's rich white parents paid for them to go on an expensive ass field trip to watch whales fuck (and do eco protest activist tourism). Coincidentally, the NRDC was there too and they got really excited to invite a bunch of American highschool students to their media shindig.

RFK Jr. got SUPER drunk and gave a sloppy, rambling, barely coherent speech, thanking people for their generosity. The kids were like "WTF is up with this dude? We've never seen grownups act like this!"

We did get to hear some really cool marine biologists talk about gray whales. Then one of THEM (Roger Payne, I think) got really drunk too and told us "Whales are people damn it! But you can't publish that! You can't fucking publish that!"

[–] mister_flibble@lemm.ee 42 points 1 month ago

This is like, one mention of "nuclear wessels" away from being a deleted scene from Star Trek IV.

[–] fossilesque@mander.xyz 32 points 1 month ago

Roger Payne is right.

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[–] Kalcifer@sh.itjust.works 79 points 1 month ago (14 children)

[…] psychedelics […]

I'm glad that it seems like the war on drugs is showing cracks. I completely support a move to legalize psychedelics.

[–] AbsoluteChicagoDog@lemm.ee 38 points 1 month ago (1 children)

That's why it's included and it's the first item. To make the rest seem reasonable.

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RFK Jr. about to legalize date rape drugs. Mark. My. Words.

[–] ShaggySnacks@lemmy.myserv.one 66 points 1 month ago

True story, I went to my doctor about losing some weight as I was close to getting diabetes. For some reason, my doctor loudly proclaimed "Here is a prescription for some meds" while handing me the prescription.

It wasn't a prescription for meds. My doctor wrote "Due to Big Pharma and the FDA listening in, I have to prescribed various meds. You really should eat healthy diet that has a healthy amount of calories made up of vegetables and fruit. I needed get exercise and should spend time outside to help everything."

Big Pharma is everywhere! /s

[–] veroxii@aussie.zone 65 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Yeah it's the FDA keeping people from exercising.

What he's missing is that people who want raw milk are already finding ways to get it. And people who understand the safety issues won't buy it.

There might be some real self selection and culling of the right wing heard about to happen. Maybe this is for the greater good after all?

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[–] Whorehoarder@lemmynsfw.com 61 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Fucking FDA and big Pharma having a stranglehold on vitamins, exercise and su-...and ..sunshine..

[–] Carrolade@lemmy.world 35 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Don't forget the FDA's aggressive suppression of exercise.

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[–] PotatoesFall@discuss.tchncs.de 59 points 1 month ago (7 children)

Can't wait for the war on sunshine to end!

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[–] PotatoesFall@discuss.tchncs.de 59 points 1 month ago (12 children)

Don't give me hope RFK. Like you're really gonna legalize psychedelics for therapy.

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[–] socsa@piefed.social 50 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (7 children)

Apparently now conservatism is just constantly relitigating every minor perceived slight.

For the most part, liberals have moved past the fact that these assholes held the country hostage and killed a million people throwing their tantrum.

Meanwhile, conservatives are like "we haven't forgotten that you made fun of us for the horse dewormer thing."

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[–] PresidentCamacho@lemm.ee 49 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

The god damn FDA and its war on...

....checks notes...

Sunshine and Exercise!

[–] Kalcifer@sh.itjust.works 48 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (6 children)

[…] ivermectin, hydroxychloroquine […]

I'll be honest, I don't really understand this one. I'd guess that this is likely some hold over grudge from COVID, but I don't really understand why it's still a concern to get, presumably, more open access to those drugs. Aren't we long past that conversation? Feels like beating a dead horse.

[–] Liz@midwest.social 30 points 1 month ago (6 children)

I'm literally taking hydroxychloroqine right now. There's no difficulty in accessing it. Not unless you consider needing a prescription difficult.

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[–] TransplantedSconie@lemm.ee 47 points 1 month ago (3 children)

Don't worry, everyone! While we will ignore science and make sure you don't have vaccines, you'll have shrooms, rock crystals, and essential oils when bird flu finally hits.

Or I eat a dead bat and become patient zero for Ebola. It's all good! - RFK Jr

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[–] ChowJeeBai@lemmy.world 44 points 1 month ago (1 children)
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[–] Kalcifer@sh.itjust.works 41 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (10 children)

[…] raw milk […]

I'd support raw milk being legal for consumers to purchase so long as the manufacturers of said raw milk could be held to account for harm caused to a consumer who purchased it under the belief that it was safe — likely, this would also mean that, if it isn't safe, the product containing raw milk must otherwise display explicit warnings. I think a person should be allowed to take take their own risks.

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[–] banana_lama@lemm.ee 38 points 1 month ago (2 children)

Oh no it's the Sun everybody run inside -the FDA probably

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[–] todd_bonzalez@lemm.ee 38 points 1 month ago (5 children)

127TB of data. That's almost exactly 20 LTO-6 tapes. Good for 30 years when you'll need to transfer them to something better.

It'll cost you less than $300 and it'll all fit into a shoebox.

Become an archivist. The future depends on it.

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[–] CitizenKong@lemmy.world 33 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (4 children)

Speaking of raw milk, bird flu has just been disovered in it. Buckle up, the next pandemic is coming. Maybe it will go down in history as the MAGA flu. Or Trumps.

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[–] BenLeMan@lemmy.world 32 points 1 month ago

And a healthy swig of bleach for good measure. Cheers!

[–] Maggoty@lemmy.world 31 points 1 month ago (4 children)

Oh good they listed them all in one place so if a doctor references it I know to just get up and walk the fuck out.

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[–] Soup@lemmy.cafe 29 points 1 month ago* (last edited 4 weeks ago)

Dude needs to take his Sméagol-sounding ass back to Middle Earth and leave science to those who, in the least- least have a rudimentary knowledge of it.

[–] umbrella@lemmy.ml 28 points 1 month ago

im okay with ending the war on psychedelics though.

not for everyone but also not worth hunting and jailing people for.

fuck off with all the pseudoscientific garbage.

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