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Checkmate, Chuck. πŸ‘‘

Edit: Given the number of downvotes I'm getting, I'm guessing a lot of people have just learned that they've been pronouncing St. John wrong. Don't beat yourselves up. It's not like it's a terribly common name.

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[–] remi_pan@sh.itjust.works 1 points 7 minutes ago

There is also the wedding scene of Bernard and Lydia in the 1997 movie Four weddings and a funeral. https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=ZYzQFudZ70k

[–] makingStuffForFun@lemmy.ml 8 points 4 hours ago (1 children)

Not a single person in my insane number of years has ever said sinjin

[–] todd_bonzalez@lemm.ee 0 points 3 hours ago (1 children)

You don't live in Britain where:

  • This is a name people have.
  • It's pronounced like that.
[–] makingStuffForFun@lemmy.ml 5 points 2 hours ago

Lived there for years and years. Never heard it pronounced that way. Strange

[–] LiamMayfair@lemmy.sdf.org 10 points 5 hours ago* (last edited 5 hours ago)

Yup, Sinjin is definitely a thing.

Source: I know a St. John and he told me the right way to pronounce his name is indeed "Sinjin"

[–] Berttheduck@lemmy.ml 38 points 9 hours ago (4 children)

We don't as far as I know. St John is usually pronounced Saint John. Though English is weird and you might have come across a local pronunciation. Do you know where abouts in the UK that one comes from?

[–] myself@lemmy.ml 4 points 6 hours ago

Oh no not in Utica

[–] Preacher@lemmy.world 10 points 8 hours ago

Roger Moore pronounced his alias St John Smythe as "Sinjun Smythe" in "A View To A Kill"

[–] sgibson5150@slrpnk.net 5 points 8 hours ago

Perhaps not precisely "sinjin". Wikipedia gives the IPA as /ˈsΙͺndΚ’Ιͺn/ or /-Κ’Ι™n/ where the Κ’ is the g in beige or the s in pleasure so it's a bit more of a zh sound than a j sound: "sinzhin"

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/St_John_(name) https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Help:IPA/English

[–] Railison@aussie.zone 4 points 8 hours ago* (last edited 8 hours ago)

Though the English ~~is~~ are weird

Local names in Britain do my head in

[–] breadsmasher@lemmy.world 15 points 8 hours ago (1 children)

I am english, in the UK. I have never heard someone say sinjin instead of saint john. The only thing I can imagine is a local accent? But id think its more like sint jin (sint jawn?)

[–] LiamMayfair@lemmy.sdf.org 3 points 5 hours ago

That's not how I've heard it pronounced. Not in the north at least. The T is mute. It's "sinjin" (rhymes with Kent).

[–] Jake_Farm@sopuli.xyz 20 points 9 hours ago

Ive never heard of Sinjin.

[–] RoquetteQueen@sh.itjust.works 10 points 8 hours ago (2 children)

Who has a first name of St John?

[–] stormio@lemmy.ca 8 points 6 hours ago (1 children)

In Vancouver, Canada, we have a journalist named St. John Alexander who pronounces his first name as "Sinjin." I heard him say it on TV and it sounded weird. His profile even mentions it.

He's often asked about his name. St. John is originally British and is pronounced "Sinjin." His parents discovered it in Charlotte Bronte's novel Jane Eyre.

[–] Tolookah@discuss.tchncs.de 3 points 6 hours ago

Pronounced Janer, I assume.

[–] sgibson5150@slrpnk.net 6 points 8 hours ago* (last edited 8 hours ago) (1 children)

From Wikipedia St John Pettifor Catchpool (1890–1971), English Quaker relief worker St. John Ellis (1964–2005), British Rugby League player St John Ervine (1883-1971), Irish writer St John Groser (1890-1966), Anglican priest and Christian socialist St John Hornby (1867–1946), British businessman St John Horsfall (1910-1949), British motor racing driver St John Brodrick, 1st Earl of Midleton (1856–1942), British politician St John O'Neill (1741–1790), Irish MP for Randalstown Saint-John Perse, pseudonym of Alexis Leger (1887–1975), French poet and diplomat St John Philby (1885–1960), British civil servant and explorer in Arabia

Weird. I never would have guessed anyone was named that.

[–] SouthFresh@lemmy.ml 7 points 8 hours ago (1 children)

β€œ It can be pronounced…” is not the same as, β€œIs often pronounced”

[–] sgibson5150@slrpnk.net -4 points 7 hours ago

I didn't really say either of those, at least in the post. What's your point?

[–] BCsven@lemmy.ca 5 points 8 hours ago

I grew up in Britain no one I knew says sinjin, but Sinclair,warrik (Warwick) etc were the norm