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As they begin to dissect their collapse in the presidential election, some Democratic National Committee members are concluding that the party is too “woke,” too focused on identity politics and too out of touch with broad stretches of America.

From the bottom of my heart, fuck these people. They've moved so far towards neoliberal policy positions that they no longer have an economic message to give their working-class base. In the absence of a coherent economic vision for the party, they keep doubling down on, "identity politics," to keep the the Obama Coalition happy; they have nothing to unify their base, so their only option is to take up any position that is important to the demographic groups that make up the party. Now that this strategy has been thoroughly and decisively defeated, their reaction isn't to return to the progressive economic policies that won them these groups in the first place, but instead to figure which minorities are, "unpopular," so they can abandon them. What a bunch of stupid, shortsighted cowards.

They have their big donors who give them their marching orders. They really don't care if they win or not, so long as they are getting paid.

Jesus. They’ve learned nothing:

He added, “Trump really kind of ran up numbers everywhere, you know what I mean? There was clearly a strategy not focusing on one place or another. And as a party we have to do that.”

THATS NOT WHAT FUCKING HAPPENED.

Trumps numbers barely moved.

Harris’s numbers PLUMMETED compared to Trump’s 4 years ago. Start there. That’s where you need to start this postmortem.

Side note: what happened to all the 3rd party chuds after the election? I guess they're all just going to sit on their hands and do fuck all until 4 years from now when they need to heroically arrive on the scene and convince everybody to toss away their vote for someone they just heard about because they're mad at the inevitable Dem centrist pick.

idk man, if the DNC won't run a progressive, why can't we get a grassroots movement behind one?

Frankly more people were excited about Tim Walz then Kamala Harris. Let's get more MN politicians in there instead of people from the coasts. The focus on getting someone from the Midwest is the only good news I see. We need someone from Minnesota, Wisconsin or Michigan to lead the party from the inside. They might be fully progressive but understand how to organize and message to everyone. They can't just float by on politics as usual

They lost the election by running an essentially republican candidate. Fingers crossed for a progressive chair.

So either we are to believe they've learned nothing and will continue to alienate their base, while remaining inept fools on the international stage, OR their idea of rebuilding a carbon copy of the previous failures is by design.

A centrist DNC is a loser. A center-right DNC is a loser. The DNC will never beat the Republicans at their own game, so either these strategists are the densest people on the planet, or they are the mouthpieces of Controlled Opposition, exactly as expected.

There is no duality in which savvy, intelligent political players arrive at "Centrism wins," without some inherent greasy, malfeasant ulterior motives.

It's difficult to even pretend that they are serious in this endeavor; their every action and utterance is an admission of planned incompetence.

They've already decided who's taking over, nothing the progressives do will shift the needle.

Snatching defeat from the jaws of victory is the Democrat way.

Is abolishing the DNC an option? Otherwise, we're wasting valuable time.

I remain convinced that any effective resistance to Trump and MAGA will have to come from outside the Democratic Party.

I really wish they would put out a survey for voters. Some way to collect data about what people actually want. Like a huge survey, let every registered dem fill it out.

If they're talking about running some bland business-as-usual candidate then that'll lose. People want change.

Based on their track record I have no faith in progress.

So, to solve the problem of the left not voting them, they are moving further to the right.

Yeah, America, I'm sorry to tell you but you are screwed. You have 4 years to either behead the dnc and turn it into a left wing party, or greate an actual left party.

Otherwise, you're going to be eating fascism fo dinner until you implode.

I love how they think the best way forward is to become the embodiment of the election strategy that just failed so spectacularly for Harris. Brilliant.

Centrist Democrats are revolting.

As they begin to dissect their collapse in the presidential election, some Democratic National Committee members are concluding that the party is too “woke,” too focused on identity politics and too out of touch with broad stretches of America.

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Or as one DNC member from Florida put it: “I don’t want to be the freak show party, like they have branded us. You know, when you’re a mom with three kids, and you live in middle America and you’re just not really into politics, and you see these ads that scare the bejesus out of you, you’re like, ‘I know Trump’s weird or whatever, but I would rather his weirdness that doesn’t affect my kids.’”

Aka the libs want to turn on trans people.

Remember when they picked Tom Perez, the croaking geezer, over Kieth Ellison. Your voice won't be heard because that's not who they're listening for.

Please spread, cross post, share, whatever; wherever you can. People should have input into the democratic policy platform, but they're so brazen as to say the "center is where we need to be".

These people, these few hundred people, are a big problem with the democratic party.

We need to take the narrative back from centrists. It can be done by telling the DNC what to do, not the other way around.