Christian Earth: 6000 years old
Middle Earth: 30,000 years old
Middle Earth wins again
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Jesus vs Gandalf power scalers go!!!
Modern depictions of Jesus are correct because after the crucifixion Jesus came back as Jesus the White.
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Hey Gandalf, fuck off. Were you literally there 3,000 years ago? Or are you just going "You're younger than me, so you know fuckall"?
Fuckin boomer
That's my take.
Bro I was alive during Rodney King riots.
Doesn't mean my opinion is more valid than someone actually there.
Gandalf: I was there in spirit!
Small nerd gripe. Maia is the singular form of Maiar. "I am a Maia," or "I am one of the Maiar" get you there
Maia who?
Maia he
Maia ha ha
something-something Núma Númenor
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"Well I read in a book that I was there. I can't actually remember more than a few hundred years back."
Ashildr from Doctor Who was brilliant.
I'm wondering now, how our little brains would adapt to living like for thousands of years. Would we really start forgetting things that are waaaay back?
I've already forgotten most of my childhood and I'm only around 30. So I'd assume, yes.
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Doesn't matter. While that amazon shitshow tells a different story, Gandalf (as Radagast and Saruman) only arrived in the third age, long after the War of the Last Alliance. Gandalf might be infinitely older than Elrond yet wasn't there.
This does raise the question "Does your age count when you're in Valinor?"
Because it's literally the undying lands. Are we really going to pull rank between two functionally ageless beings? Seems petty.
It's not about rank or age. It's about who's been present at the last battle of the War of the Last Alliance. Also, at the time of the depicted scene Elrond never was in Valinor, so at this point in time Gandalf definitely easier Elrond's senior by orders of magnitude.
I thought the way it was worded, it was still technically the second age?
The second age ended with the ending of the war of the last alliance, so Gandalf did arrive later, but not "long after"
I assume you forgot a "not" after the "but". I just looked it up though, Gandalf left Valinor for Middle Earth around 1000 T.A. I don't know about you, but I'd consider that "long after" the War of the Last Alliance.
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Am I wrong or do the wizards not remember their lives before they were sent to middle earth?
I don't think the original books ever told anything about it.
Iirc the books themselves didn't say, but Tolkien's letters say something to the effect of the Istari only having vague memories of their time as Maia, with the exception of things that they were explicitly meant to remember, e.g. Olórin's memories of being sent back after his physical death while fighting Durin's Bane.
They know that they are, in our parlance, embodied angels or minor gods, but they don't remember a ton of where they came from
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I mean, sure he was alive. But he wasn't physically there.
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