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[–] xenomor@lemmy.world 113 points 6 days ago (2 children)

It’s time for the world community to start treating the United States as an environmental, economic, and military threat. We are not a partner. We don’t value the wellbeing of anyone, be they in other countries or our own for that matter.

[–] bitchkat@lemmy.world 12 points 6 days ago

They just need to "Under the Dome" the whole country.

[–] GiddyGap@lemm.ee 2 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago)

Yeah, but we have big trucks so than we can coal-roll and burn rubber all day long...

[–] bstix@feddit.dk 58 points 6 days ago (2 children)

This will mainly hurt the American industries. The rest of the world is moving on, whether or not USA is on board.

[–] disguy_ovahea@lemmy.world 33 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago) (4 children)

My concern is for the planet. The US is by far the largest contributor to climate change if you account for the additional emissions from US manufacturing in China. We can’t afford this move backwards.

[–] WhyFlip@lemmy.world 6 points 6 days ago (3 children)
[–] disguy_ovahea@lemmy.world 6 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago)

True. I meant most life. The planet will balance itself once we’re all dead.

[–] ililiililiililiilili@lemm.ee 6 points 6 days ago

Right? Its just that biological, carbon-based shit on it that's gonna get cooked. This old rock is gonna be just fine. 🥹

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[–] tal@lemmy.today 14 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago)

https://www.euronews.com/green/2024/11/04/cop29-what-is-the-paris-agreement-and-how-will-countries-be-held-to-account-in-baku

The iconic international climate treaty - the Paris Agreement - includes a pledge to try and keep temperatures from rising by more than 1.5C above pre-industrial levels.

So how are countries doing on sticking to 1.5C or below? Well, not very well. Just last month the UN warned that current climate policies put the world on track for 3.1C of warming by 2100.

Probably going to need to be some change from the current trajectory, if so.

[–] Blackmist@feddit.uk 29 points 6 days ago

Everybody who is signed up to it should impose tariffs or sanctions on those who are not.

[–] SatansMaggotyCumFart@lemmy.world 12 points 6 days ago (1 children)

Just let him know it’s eight years old and he’ll stay in there until completion.

[–] disguy_ovahea@lemmy.world 9 points 6 days ago

It’s not like he’ll have to fight Epstein over this one

[–] Atom@lemmy.world 10 points 6 days ago (1 children)

Providing he doesn't become a dictator, which is certainly probable, his impacts on the environment will be bad, but not catastrophic.

Historically, when the incumbent is out, the president flips to the other party. Businesses plan strategy out for 5-10-20 years. Trump dismantling regulation won't force them to reconsider their strategy entirely. They'll use the 4 years as breathing room knowing it's probable a democratic executive will return in 2029. They'll slow walk progress, but they aren't going to abandon everything and start ramping up emissions. They still have to sell products in CA and the 16 states that follow CA emissions rules. We already saw that in 2016, auto makers stayed the course. They enjoyed the extra time to get their fleet MPGs up, but they knew time would eventually out and they'd need to be competitive when that happened.

Trumps "drill baby drill" plan sounds good to idiots, but oil is still subject to supply and demand. They already lease more land than they could ever use. They'll use trump to buy up leases that would otherwise go to renewables, but they aren't going to start pumping oil past demand and driving their profits down. Especially considering retaliation tariffs could cut into exports as well.

The IRA benefits red states more than blue and they are already begging GOP leaders to leave it alone. Trump might be able to cut individual tax credits for the middle class. Slow some solar and EV purchases, buy that'll cut into Elon's business as well, so maybe he won't even get that done.

Of course, if he goes full dictator, we're fucked anyway. But if he stays within the confines of our flawed democracy, and money prefers he do so they can continue to buy laws forever, then there's a chance his damage will be confined as well.

[–] billiam0202@lemmy.world 15 points 6 days ago

Man, I hope whatever being out there that's fucking with us hears this, and it's not just grade-A hopium.

[–] BigMacHole@lemm.ee 6 points 6 days ago (1 children)

Who cares if Extreme Weather Events happen more Frequently under Trump! It's not like he's going to completely ELIMINATE things like FEMA!

[–] billiam0202@lemmy.world 11 points 6 days ago (1 children)

Or NOAA. Good luck knowing when the next hurricane is coming to hit you, Floridiots.

[–] dhork@lemmy.world 8 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago)

Who needs NOAA? We have Donald Trump with a Sharpie.

[–] MapleEngineer@lemmy.world 4 points 6 days ago

Wait until the US finds out about CBAM.

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