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The people in cities and in blue states made this economic turn around happen. Trump does not deserve the credit he will claim. Burn it down.

Edit: If you leave this thread learning anything please let it be this one thing. Organic political movement isn't schemed up in a board room or carefully planned and executed every step of the way. It starts inside of you and people like you and you lend your support not knowing the outcome but believing in the cause. If it's not here, it's not here. I don't mean to supply you with fuel needed but only the spark to ignite flame waiting to be ignited.

I'm out though.

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[–] Snapz@lemmy.world 28 points 1 week ago (1 children)

General strike on January 6th?

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[–] finitebanjo@lemmy.world 26 points 1 week ago (2 children)

You won't even have to do anything, the Tariffs will.

[–] Drusas@fedia.io 8 points 1 week ago

And the loss of labor in the agricultural, construction, food service, and hospitality industries.

Demand 4: No new tarrifs.

[–] Sanctus@lemmy.world 14 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (2 children)

Let's do it. Start the plans. Make the sticky posts. I'm about it. Just tell me what I need to do.

[–] Clinicallydepressedpoochie@lemmy.world 12 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

That's the beauty, you do nothing. Jk, no it starts with spreading the word but also ensure every one you tell that you have them. We need to come together and it will cost. Let them know we are in it together.

List of demands:

1 Biden expand the supreme court unopposed.

2 Federal legislation enshrining abortion rights, gay marriage, and decriminilizing Marijuana.

3 Legislation to expand Medicare and make it single payer.

60 million can't beat trump at the ballot box but they can beat anyone who dare try to oppress them.

[–] Sanctus@lemmy.world 4 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Is there a petition? A news letter? Anything for us to use all this anger and despair on right now?

[–] Clinicallydepressedpoochie@lemmy.world -4 points 1 week ago (1 children)

There is your voice. Jan 6th. Stop the coup.

[–] Sanctus@lemmy.world 3 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

Okay but we need actionable plans before January if we plan on being any sort of opposition.

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[–] whithom 13 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Woo woo housing market is gonna craaaaaassshhhhh… just in time for me to leave the country to avoid persecution. Crap.

[–] Clinicallydepressedpoochie@lemmy.world 7 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (2 children)

There is no greater strike then completely removing yourself from this nation. If you voted blue you were 10x the economic power any red state has ever offered.

[–] bluejay@lemm.ee 2 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Removing yourself from the nation? So your idea is to just remove what blue voters are left? Also do you have sources to back up your claims about economic power? California is a massive powerhouse but many other blue states just aren't. Like Oregon.

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[–] rockSlayer@lemmy.world 9 points 1 week ago (2 children)

A general strike will take a lot of planning. I'd estimate that an intense organizing campaign over the span of a year could make it happen, if all the organizers are willing to set aside most of their personal life for that time. Add an additional year if the organizing committee cannot make that commitment. If we start the planning now, it could grind the Trump economy to a total halt in q4 2026, peak profit for most companies.

[–] zephorah@lemm.ee 9 points 1 week ago (1 children)

It doesn’t work unless you can cover the costs of all the many people living paycheck to paycheck.

[–] rockSlayer@lemmy.world 4 points 1 week ago

Yes, precisely. That's what all the planning is needed for.

[–] Clinicallydepressedpoochie@lemmy.world 4 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (2 children)

Waiting for things to cool off is the one sure fire way to make sure it will never happen. Anyone tempted to subscribe to this belief has already in their head given up their freedom. Has already resided their fate and is ready for the new world order.

[–] rockSlayer@lemmy.world 11 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (3 children)

I'm not saying this out of ignorance. I'm a professional organizer. I'm telling you that a strike without planning is like jumping into the deep end without learning to swim. The strike will fail if things aren't prepared first.

ETA: all said, if you want to start organizing this strike I will help. I absolutely agree, a strike is really the only tool left in our "peaceful protest" toolbox.

[–] Drusas@fedia.io 2 points 1 week ago (1 children)

I wonder what kind of planning went into Seattle's general strike. They didn't even have easy means of communication back then.

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[–] Clinicallydepressedpoochie@lemmy.world -2 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

We need you, dummy. I'm not that. I'm know I'm not that. You are the litmus test. We don't have you and people like you we don't have a strike.

[–] rockSlayer@lemmy.world 4 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

I'll need a committee, friend. I was once where you were too, your passion is exactly what an organizing committee needs!

[–] Sanctus@lemmy.world 2 points 1 week ago (2 children)

Okay, I'm serious. I can relay this to a senator I am related to. How can we get this started? I am willing to hand out my contact info to you.

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[–] bluejay@lemm.ee 3 points 1 week ago (1 children)

This is a take I actually agree with you on. Complacency is this country's biggest flaw and why shit has cranked so hard to the right. But people need leaders with plans and social skills. In the same breath of saying inaction is deadly, so is unorganized action. That's how movements die. Remember occupy Wall Street? Favorite example.

[–] Clinicallydepressedpoochie@lemmy.world -4 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

I've already done all the hard things occupy couldn't. I set a deadline and given you three non-negotiables. Even if we leave the having gotten nothing we leave accomplishing what we set out to do, putting the economy in shambles and making sure trump actually has to create a successful one through policy.

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[–] bluejay@lemm.ee 6 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Bullshit like this always pisses me off. You look at the comments, no plan, no organization nothing but more pretty words. Keyboard jockey neo-liberals.

If you want to "resist", go outside and organize with existing groups and participate. Don't just talk about how cool it would be if we "stuck it to the man" and leave it there. Just saying "we should strike" doesn't mean a fucking thing. Lots of people, myself included, can't afford to strike. I could lose my job, then my home. Get real dude. Don't just make half assed posts without any plans or actionable steps to jerk yourself off.

[–] Clinicallydepressedpoochie@lemmy.world 8 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

Bullshit like this is the exact reason we fail each other every fucking day. I'm asking you to lift others up and all you can do is put me down. I'm not special but I'm 10x more then you'll ever be.

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[–] 100@fedia.io 4 points 1 week ago

votes for the candidate openly talking about plans that only help the rich become richer

how could this happen?

[–] disguy_ovahea@lemmy.world 3 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Strike? Better make it quick.

When Trump fires and replaces the NLRB with loyalists, you’ll lose the NLRA that defends your right to strike. Without that, you’ll just get fired for job abandonment.

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