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Hello users of Hexbear, we wanted to inform you that we are going to be locking the_dunk_tank and dredge_tank communities. We have created two new communities /c/gossip and /c/counterpropaganda to serve a similar but clearly distinct purpose than the dunk/dredge tanks.

Not only is the dunk tank a term that has racist origins, but also many posts there were almost no effort and often times requiring later edits to show how they weren't reactionary, ~~not useful with regard to developing rhetoric and furthering dialectical analysis of that which we dunk upon~~.

To that end, we wish posts of reactionaries to be placed in !counterpropaganda@hexbear.net along with an accompanying explanation (as simple or complex as desired) with the intent of countering the reactionary propaganda in the post body, as of now comments are not subject to the same ~~rhetorical rigor~~ rule.

For the posts ~~that are not "low-hanging fruit'~~ of notable people we ask that you use !gossip@hexbear.net .

These changes are mainly part of a continued effort to remove the racist and misogynistic elements from our community and grow.

Any moderators of the dunk tank or dredge tank that want to be a mod in the new communities let me know.

Any users with questions or comments please use this post, this change was made at the behest of the entire Hexbear mod and admin team. We will be looking for more moderators in an organized volunteer drive shortly, if you wish to submit an application you may send it to me via hexbear or matrix direct messages.

Use this post as a place for discussion to these changes. We will keep things as they are for 2 weeks and then reflect on the feedback, including this post: https://hexbear.net/post/3858346

As a personal addendum I am sorry if ~~the closing of the tanks~~ these changes removes a beloved space on the site and if you want to suggest a community to replace them you may do so at !commrequest@hexbear.net or submit a mod application to take a more active role in shaping the site.

Sitewide or community changes come from proposals put forth from the mod team, discussed, and voted on by the mod team.

Any users wanting to suggest a community to replace the tanks, may do so at !commrequest@hexbear.net current discussion is here https://hexbear.net/post/3858346 or submit a mod application to take a more active role in shaping the site.

You may also consider using !shitreactionariessay@lemmygrad.ml as a substitute for dunk/dredge tank posts as well

The mod statement can be found here: https://hexbear.net/comment/5613033

ApplicationWhat is your Hexbear username? Do you have any preferred pronouns? What are your thoughts on capitalism? What are your thoughts on imperialism? What are your thoughts on trans rights? What are your thoughts on racial justice? What do think about current and previous protests around the world? What are your thoughts on Veganism and Animal Liberation? Do you have any experience with other leftist online communities? What did those experiences teach you? What is your approach to moderation, and how do you work with teams? How do you deal with online drama and people who try to start things for the sake of it? What current comms would you be interested in moderating? Do you have any ideas for community engagement? What is your general time availability? (Time zone, amounts, common browsing times, etc)

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[–] ManFreakBeast@hexbear.net 55 points 2 days ago (1 children)

This is the stupidest struggle session in HexBear history, a record that will be broken by every subsequent struggle sessions in HexBear history.

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[–] CriticalOtaku@hexbear.net 38 points 2 days ago (2 children)

Me walking into this thread after seeing the site filled with catposts for some reason:

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[–] Guamer@hexbear.net 38 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

I'll throw in my two cents I guess: I really like the idea someone mentioned of "c/the_trough" or something of the like where it's basically just the original version of dunk tank with a different name: A single all-purpose community for dunking, mocking or whatever you want to call it.

To put it simply: Making fun of shitheads is funny, and something the majority of people here, including myself, enjoy. Does it achieve any higher purpose? No, and it doesn't have to. It's just a nice way to let off steam in a world where we're otherwise basically powerless. Rule 8 really isn't worth all this that it's wrought.

If this is about avoiding drama with other instances, maybe a rule could be "no posts about Lemmy users" and keep it to public figures and people on other non-Lemmy social media such as, of course, Twitter.

[–] bdonvr@thelemmy.club 47 points 2 days ago (1 children)

The dunk/dredge comms might've been unproductive but were they _anti_productive?

If y'all want to make the site more serious and action focused, cool. But did these comms actively harm that? Can we not have both?

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[–] Alaskaball@hexbear.net 30 points 2 days ago (1 children)
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[–] this_dude_eating_beans@hexbear.net 57 points 2 days ago (15 children)

this is the most terminally online shit, dawg lol

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[–] Commiejones@hexbear.net 64 points 2 days ago

So this is still happening? To be clear I don't really care about the comms involved.

I though I'd go to bed and wake up to a compromise. A new comm with the same purpose as the problematically named comm (I was hoping for c/BarbaraPit) and a more seriously minded brainworms vivisection Comm.

The moderation team seems to be doubling down on their wish to be serious. Which I can understand as mods who committed to a role of responsibility they are likely to want a serious site culture. (it also would lead to less difficult moderation) I think the complaints about the Cis White Maleness of the comms in question are over emphasised by the mods because they see the comm through a screen of problematic comments. I think this says more about the need for more mods and for current mods to take more breaks.

Hexbear isn't redsails or even lemmygrad. Hexbear is a place where leftists can come and say what they really think without people thinking we are crazy. The world out there is sick and we just need a place to vent that it is sick. We don't need a place to break down in what specific ways it is sick because we all know that already.

[–] GayTuckerCarlson@hexbear.net 27 points 2 days ago

Lmao this is going to surpass the October 7th news mega comment count at this rate

[–] pissbabymaggie@hexbear.net 22 points 2 days ago

didnt srs try this and the place ended up dying or am i losing it

[–] DeathToBritain@hexbear.net 33 points 2 days ago (2 children)

deep-nestingthe likes of which are rarely ever seen!

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[–] imogen_underscore@hexbear.net 69 points 2 days ago (5 children)

this sucks lol. offensively poor communication and solution for a fake problem.

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[–] AntiOutsideAktion@hexbear.net 28 points 2 days ago (1 children)
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