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Democrats are committed to losing and are turning towards "we gotta be more racist and transphobic".

Seth Moulton also turning on trans people and outright declaring himself transphobic after prior tweets recognising things like Trans Day of Remembrance.

https://x.com/SLCLunk/status/1854597079773200550

"Progressive era has to end" from Elise Jordan. When was there ever one?

https://x.com/LailaAlarian/status/1854151933117788193

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[–] davel@lemmy.ml 165 points 6 days ago (22 children)

Quadrupling down is a bold move, DNC. Let's see if it pays off.

[–] danc4498@lemmy.world 73 points 6 days ago (4 children)

Can we lose to Trump a third time? We shall see!

[–] TheOubliette@lemmy.ml 52 points 6 days ago (1 children)

In this timeline, Dems will endorse and successfully help pass a repeal of the 22nd Amendment so they can run against Trump again (because he's so beatable!) and still lose.

[–] AllHailTheSheep@sh.itjust.works 29 points 6 days ago

please don't give them ideas

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[–] HRDS_654@lemmy.world 46 points 6 days ago

Spoiler alert, it won't. They were already alienating their base by playing the "both sides" card.

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[–] wildbus8979@sh.itjust.works 125 points 6 days ago (1 children)
[–] henfredemars@infosec.pub 36 points 6 days ago (2 children)
[–] _bcron_@lemmy.world 18 points 6 days ago

That's the best kind, when you get uncomfortable and say 'uhhhh... nevermind."

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[–] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 51 points 6 days ago (4 children)

Marx and Lenin continue to be vindicated by the passage of time.

No, the Democrats will not shift left. Their donors would rather they lose to republicans than win on a more progressive platform, and as such will not shift left.

No, we cannot "elect good democrats" to shift the party to the left. The DNC is an organization that has perfected itself as an anti-radical filter. Those who can fundraise well are elevated to the top, those who speak up against injustice are shunned and whipped.

We must actively organize outside the DNC and pressure the system. I keep an intro to Marxism-Leninism list I can link if anyone wants it, let me know.

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[–] NauticalNoodle@lemmy.ml 85 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago) (2 children)

Harrison has reportedly chosen not to seek to stay on as DNC chair but his dismissal of Sanders’s statement provoked anger of its own, including from the reporter and columnist Glenn Greenwald. “You and the corporatist and militarist party you lead just got your ass kicked all up and down the US, because Americans see that you only care about enriching yourselves at the corporate lobbying trough,” Greenwald wrote. “If the humiliation you just suffered doesn’t usher in some humility and self-reflection, nothing will.”

-rarely do I read an article and genuinely think "man, that guy got slammed." as the rhetoric typically suggests, but wholly hell did Harrison get slammed.

[–] thisphuckinguy@lemmy.world 30 points 5 days ago

Bernie isn’t spewing bullshit. Jaime Harrison can fuck off.

[–] jagged_circle@feddit.nl 33 points 5 days ago (2 children)

Wow. Theyre doubling down? Fucking idiots.

[–] negativeyoda@lemmy.world 15 points 5 days ago

At this point they're quadrupuling down. Not our first rodeo, brochacho

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[–] AdrianTheFrog@lemmy.world 25 points 5 days ago

This is the second time this has happened. Democrats in the 50s-60s realized they could get votes in the North by not being racist, while Republicans at the same time realized they could get votes in the South by being racist. It just really shows that neither side really cares all that much, it’s mostly a show for political gain.

[–] cakeistheanswer@lemmy.dbzer0.com 43 points 6 days ago (1 children)

Just a reminder people who can't beat Lindsay Graham aren't worth listening to electorally.

[–] slingstone@lemmy.world 13 points 5 days ago

To be fair, in South Carolina, Jesus could run as a Democrat and somehow lose to Lindsey Graham with likely voters.

[–] PriorityMotif@lemmy.world 84 points 6 days ago (1 children)

Fucking piece of shit.

He later served as a lobbyist for the Podesta Group.[4][11] His clients at the Podesta Group included banks, such as Bank of America and Wells Fargo, Berkshire Hathaway,[12] pharmaceutical companies,[13] casinos, the American Coalition for Clean Coal Electricity, and Walmart,[14] among others.[15] In addition to lobbying work at Podesta Group, he has also lobbied on behalf of United Way Worldwide and the Association of Public and Land-grant Universities.[6]

[–] superkret@feddit.org 7 points 5 days ago

the American Coalition for Clean Coal Electricity

I bet they're allied with the American Association of Promoting Women's Rights and Rape.

[–] dephyre@lemmy.world 52 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago) (2 children)

No way, Democrats have to pivot more to the right, surely that help, right? …right?

[–] Blum0108@lemmy.world 31 points 6 days ago (1 children)

It has helped exactly 0 times in the past, why wouldn't it work this time?

[–] SoJB@lemmy.ml 24 points 6 days ago (1 children)

Liberals are losing their minds blaming everyone except their dogshit policies and strategies.

You know what, yeah I did cause the Dems to lose. And you know what, I’ll fuckin do it again in the midterms if they don’t move left.

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[–] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 14 points 6 days ago

It helps their donors, who would rather the Dems lose than shift left and win.

[–] Asafum@feddit.nl 56 points 6 days ago (8 children)

"We have the perfect candidate lined up for 2028! We've recruited Dr.Frankenstein and in a world first we've resurrected both Margaret Thatcher and Ronald Reagan, stitched them together, and they will be the new face of the Democratic party! Vote for us or you're racist and just want Donald Trump to win!"

[–] ShinkanTrain@lemmy.ml 17 points 6 days ago (5 children)

I have terrible news, Margaronald's tenure in hell made them unelectable among Christians. We're gonna gave to go with plan B and get George Bush and somehow make him more racist

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[–] queermunist@lemmy.ml 61 points 6 days ago (1 children)

There is no home for progressives in the Democratic Party. At this point the only hope is to go independent like Sanders or join one of the third parties and abandon Democrats entirely. Democrats will never learn.

[–] ThunderWhiskers@lemmy.world 26 points 6 days ago (3 children)

Part of the problem is Sanders is one of the rare ones and he is just too damn old.

[–] queermunist@lemmy.ml 18 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago) (5 children)

That's why I favor building a labor party and splintering the Democrats away from their shitty party. Their party is full of people who do not belong and would be more at home in a different party, if we had a system that wasn't so unfavorable to third parties.

The only choice is to replace the Democrats as the only other party. Let all the right-wing Democrats join the Republicans and we build a new party with everyone who is left.

Seems... Impossibly hard to do though.

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[–] TheOubliette@lemmy.ml 15 points 6 days ago

Which speaks to a much greater problem regarding Sanders: he dropped the chance to build a movement and parallel platform and instead just became a sheepdog for Clinton, Biden, and Harris. He was a useful lightning rod for the popularity of social spending policies and getting debt off the backs of the vast majority of people, but only served as a lightning rod, not turning it into organizing or strength. Just like Obama disassembled his electoral team to use party insiders and lose the 2010 midterms, Sanders gave away his donor list for a song and left his ground game operation hanging until they fucked off and did their own things.

This is why any turn to the Democratic party is a death knell and why we need the exact opposite approach to building the left. The heart of left strength is organizations, of people workinh to educate one another, recruit, and engage in action according to an independent political program that does not wane or falter just because one old guy capitulates to Democrats. There needs to be hundreds of people ready to replace any "important" figurehead or candidate or politician, they must be jettisonable as needed and beholden to members' will, not donors'.

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[–] M0oP0o@mander.xyz 18 points 5 days ago

Sounds like something a loser would say.

You know what could prove him wrong? Maybe electing a president? Or winning the house? Or the Senate?

Oh, I mean surely if what he is saying is such bullshit you guys got at least 2/3 of these right?

[–] MapleEngineer@lemmy.world 31 points 6 days ago (1 children)
[–] M0oP0o@mander.xyz 7 points 5 days ago

Dang it the onion! You gotta stop with the news and get back to over the top satire. You are fooling people into hope again.

[–] njm1314@lemmy.world 40 points 6 days ago (1 children)

This is what I'm saying here, it's time to blow up the Democratic Party. It's already done like 2/3 of the work for us. Blow it up.

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[–] wuphysics87@lemmy.ml 15 points 5 days ago (1 children)

Are you sure they are committed to losing and not committed to trying to win by adopting republican tactics?

[–] thesporkeffect@lemmy.world 14 points 5 days ago

It's the same picture

[–] moitoi@lemmy.dbzer0.com 23 points 6 days ago

Democrats in denial.

[–] RobMyBot@lemmy.ml 31 points 6 days ago

They're truly just humiliating themselves over and over again.

[–] L0rdMathias@sh.itjust.works 29 points 6 days ago

"Sanders you fool! The view from atop my ivory tower does not match the view you say the people who are not on the ivory tower have."

[–] Josey_Wales@lemmy.world 27 points 6 days ago (1 children)

After what we all just witnessed it is beyond me how anyone thinks this isn’t just the system working as intended. Both the Rs and Ds worship capital. That’s the only “both sides” issue that matters to them

Let them eat cake… but remember, the cake is a lie

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[–] Frogmanfromlake@hexbear.net 25 points 6 days ago (1 children)

The guy who lost to Lindsay Graham is lecturing others on winning strategies lmao

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[–] WoahWoah@lemmy.world 22 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago) (3 children)

The democrats have been taking ethnic and racial minorities, women, and the working class for granted for decades. The slow erosion got faster, and now they got what they deserved. With no viable alternative on the left, they turned to the right. And now the democrats are slowly becoming the party of self-loathing white privilege, and they feel comfortable saying that it's "straight-up BS" that poor people matter. Poors, blacks, browns, and uteruses are just supposed to vote Democrat no matter what, right? That's what my privileged, white, college-educated friends tell me anyway. The dems got kicked in the teeth, and (almost) everyone's going to suffer for it.

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[–] Burn_The_Right@lemmy.world 18 points 6 days ago

Fuck Jaime Harrison. What a dipshit.

[–] BitSound@lemmy.world 21 points 6 days ago
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