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submitted 1 week ago* (last edited 6 days ago) by Quexotic@beehaw.org to c/politics@beehaw.org
 

I feel like this is probably pretty effective. I feel like it should be a thing.

E: see also https://beehaw.org/post/16953380 E2: https://19thnews.org/2024/11/4b-movement-south-korea-social-media-trump-presidency/

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[–] yessikg@lemmy.blahaj.zone 16 points 1 week ago (1 children)

White women voted for Trump so this is never going to work

[–] Quexotic@beehaw.org 10 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Not all of em! According to the exit poll data, 44% of women voted for Donald Trump in the 2024 presidential election, 54% voted for Harris. I think that's enough to make a difference. 🀷

https://www.nbcwashington.com/decision-2024/2024-voter-turnout-election-demographics-trump-harris/3762138/

[–] papertowels@lemmy.one 14 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

So what happens when we have a generation of kids almost entirely raised by the 44% of women who voted for Trump into brainwashy conservative families? I already see enough 5 year olds attending trump boat parades and the such to give me concern. A conservative I know dressed their kid up as Capt America yesterday because they were "defending America" after the election.

Seems like it'd suck if an entire generation was raised in these families.

[–] Quexotic@beehaw.org 4 points 1 week ago (1 children)

So it'd hasten Idiocracy? Kinda a IBDYBD problem I suppose.

Seriously though, I think the key would be to drive enough engagement with this so that this in combination with the obvious financial hardships that everyone's facing completely annihilates the birth rate.

[–] papertowels@lemmy.one 5 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

I googled IBDYBD and the best I got was irritable bowel disease, lmao. I have no clue what that means, can you fill me in?

I don't see the trump voters going for this at all is the problem.

[–] Quexotic@beehaw.org 6 points 1 week ago (2 children)

It was a joke. By the time that's a problem I'll be dead you'll be dead. IBDYBD

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[–] AnimalsDream@slrpnk.net 15 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Everyone in here arguing against 4b need to take a look in the mirror. The fact that so many of you are trying push against it is in itself a demonstration of why it's necessary. Respecting bodily autonomy does not have to be hard.

[–] papertowels@lemmy.one 15 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Bodily autonomy is the ability to choose 4b, not the reason to do so. Folks arguing against 4b have not disrespected the ability to do 4b. Therefore bodily autonomy is still respected.

[–] AnimalsDream@slrpnk.net 13 points 1 week ago (3 children)
[–] frayedpickles@lemmy.cafe 12 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Yes, posting a message on the internet while violating nobody's personal space or rights is exactly the same as that picture. You did it! You won the internet! You can go away now.

Go away

Now

[–] JCPhoenix@beehaw.org 6 points 1 week ago (1 children)

FYI, you're on Beehaw. Please be(e) nice. I know it's crazy times right now, I get it, but we do want folks to still abide by our rules and such here. Thanks.

[–] frayedpickles@lemmy.cafe 8 points 1 week ago (2 children)

While it took several minutes to find your rules, your "spirit of the rules" document specifically identifies what I did as positive: regardless of the other user fake following the rules the spirit of their post was extremely negative and portrayed the other commenter in a false rude light, which I immediately called him out on and asked him to leave. This is a paradox of intolerance situation and you seem to be on the side of intolerance which I'm not a fan of since your bee nice philosophy appears to be explicitly against it.

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[–] papertowels@lemmy.one 7 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

Cute (I actually laughed, haha), but the assumption that meme makes is that it's clear the gal doesn't want to participate in the conversation due to body language.

There's none of that when you're commenting in a public politics community. You're not posting in a community for 4b, for example. Additionally, you're the one that made the initial comment.

By attempting to talk over and belittle others who respond you're acting like the guy in the meme.

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[–] doingthestuff@lemy.lol 14 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Do what you want. I don't give a fuck.

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[–] Eggyhead@lemmings.world 14 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

This just makes β€œincels”, who are known to be too intellectually inadequate to get a clue. I wouldn’t put it past them to vote away your right to say no first.

[–] Quexotic@beehaw.org 15 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Once the birth rate drops enough, it won't matter how many incels there are, the economy crashes without kids.

[–] leftzero@lemmynsfw.com 5 points 1 week ago

The economy will be crashing anyway.

[–] masterofn001@lemmy.ca 13 points 1 week ago

It won't matter when abortion is illegal and rape goes unpunished.

The future is hell for everyone.

[–] toxicbubble420@beehaw.org 9 points 1 week ago (1 children)
[–] cicebazna 6 points 1 week ago (1 children)
[–] Quexotic@beehaw.org 5 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

I know what my wife's Halloween costume is going to be next year. That's all I'm saying.

[–] cicebazna 8 points 1 week ago (1 children)

… she’s going to choose that costume… right? 😬

[–] Quexotic@beehaw.org 12 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

Tis but a joke. She laughed when I suggested it, so I doubt it'll come to pass.

E: I might wear the costume though. That could be fun.

[–] cicebazna 7 points 1 week ago (1 children)

We’ll see how things go next year. She might be wearing it for more than the night.

[–] Quexotic@beehaw.org 7 points 1 week ago

Begrudgingly upvoted

[–] Allero@lemmy.today 7 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

So, creating a massive headache for government ~15-20 years into the future?

Or what is the point?

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