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Because you now did it to yourself.

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[–] don@lemm.ee 47 points 14 hours ago (1 children)

Irrelevant. The people who tried to stop it already know how Hitler came to power, and the ones who should ask how it happened — the ones you should address your post to — either don’t care or actively want another Hitler.

But hey, at least you slammed the people who tried their hardest, rather than actually address conservatives themselves, which would have required you actually confronting them. Glad you feel better, though.

[–] Tinidril@midwest.social 20 points 14 hours ago* (last edited 14 hours ago) (3 children)

I really think the Democratic establishment saw it coming and tried to stop it. What I don't think they understand is why they failed. They seem to have a neverending capacity to delude themselves with the idea that they just didn't "centrist" hard enough. It's almost like they're paid to think that.

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[–] Thebeardedsinglemalt@lemmy.world 153 points 17 hours ago* (last edited 15 hours ago) (15 children)

Women: he told you he's taking your rights away and is already letting you die in hospital waiting rooms

Tradesman: he told you overtime and unions are gone

Veterans: he told you he hates you, pissed all over the sanctity of Arlington and is gutting the VA

Hispanics: he told you you and yours are getting deported and doesn't care if you're legal or not

Those on social security, Medicare, Medicaid or ACA: he told you he's cutting/gutting these

Anyone with ties to Palestine: he told you he's going to help Israel finish the job

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[–] Furbag@lemmy.world 113 points 17 hours ago (8 children)

Baffling. We already rejected this guy once when he had less baggage. His first term was objectively terrible.

So, I guess America has kings now, because Trump will never see another day in court for his crimes, and he's not going to prison.

I just don't have the strength anymore. I'm teetering on the brink of agreeing with the accelerationists and just letting it happen. The faster Trump ruins the country, the sooner we can rebuild it while we still have time to enjoy it.

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[–] laverabe@lemmy.world 39 points 15 hours ago* (last edited 15 hours ago) (12 children)

We need a solution to this, because honestly the US just lost its democracy.

It's 1933.

Any ideas on ways out of this?

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[–] Knock_Knock_Lemmy_In@lemmy.world 13 points 13 hours ago

The solution is to have ranked voting and/or proportional representation.

Not a 2 party system where neither candidate is the peoples choice.

[–] leftytighty@slrpnk.net 20 points 15 hours ago* (last edited 15 hours ago)

Organize. Use direct action to sabotage the conservative agenda. General strikes. Protests. Spicy protests.

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[–] djsoren19@yiffit.net 76 points 17 hours ago (6 children)

Don't think it won't happen to you. When the incoming wave of Ukrainian refugees hits Europe, the populists that have already been growing in popularity will make their move. With the U.S. fallen, a lot of money and attention has been freed up to destabilize other countries.

It's happening in Italy. It's happening in the Netherlands. It's happening in France. If you think you are ready for it, remember that we thought the same.

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[–] steeznson@lemmy.world 38 points 15 hours ago (7 children)

I would be more concerned if he were less stupid. Going by his last presidency he'll spend half his time golfing and the rest driving through ineffective "red meat" policies to get attention from his base. Ultimately he's just a pathetic man who craves attention.

What concerns me more is that his destruction of political norms means that someone who is similarly evil - but actually capable - might be able to use him as a template to take power in the future and make America into a dictatorship. Someone like Xi Jinping as opposed to an aging B-list celebrity.

[–] III@lemmy.world 38 points 15 hours ago

You should be concerned regardless. He is backed by considerably smarter people whose agenda is way worse than last time. Regardless if Trump pays attention or not the worst people will be unhindered. He isn't even a blocking element to those people taking power because Trump is at worst a rubber stamp and more likely a corpse given his age and lifestyle.

Short version, there isn't even a remote, barely visible silver lining.

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[–] EncryptKeeper@lemmy.world 63 points 17 hours ago (7 children)

We have always known why Hitler rose to power, and we know why Trump was reelected. When people are economically depressed and a man comes to you and tells you “This isn’t your fault, I will persecute those who are responsible and personally make things better for you.” It’s human nature, out of fear, frustration, or desperation to grasp that hand. We as a people are not ready to trust the guy who says “This is our fault, and it will be hard, but we have to fix this together”. Take everything you know about Hitler and Trump and OUR world out of it, take out your reasoning and tap into your monkey brain for a second and simply ruminate on those two propositions. Which one would you rather be true? You can’t honestly tell me the latter. You may know the latter is true, but it would be so much easier on you if the first was true.

Like it or not, we aren’t as evolved as we like to think, and those of us who consider ourselves enlightened are vulnerable to our lizard brains at one point or another.

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[–] Snowpix@lemmy.ca 37 points 16 hours ago (1 children)
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[–] Furbag@lemmy.world 73 points 17 hours ago* (last edited 14 hours ago) (12 children)

My one takeaway from this is that primaries are important. Republicans held a primary, nominated an incomprehensibly stupid candidate, and managed to win. ~~Dems held no primary~~, Biden strong armed his way into the de-facto nomination for a second term, and was replaced by his VP when he imploded on the campaign trail. At no point did Dem voters ever get to have a say in their candidate this year. Not that Kamala or Joe are bad candidates, but clearly, they're lacking something if Trump was able to win again after changing nothing from 2020.

So, the DNC fucked us again and we got Trump a second time in exactly the same way.

[–] Stern@lemmy.world 27 points 16 hours ago

Dems held no primary,

He should have only served one term like he was considering and let Harris and whoever else have a primary. But just like with RBG, hubris clouded an old fucks mind and screwed the rest of us.

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[–] FlashMobOfOne@lemmy.world 157 points 19 hours ago (11 children)

It doesn't matter.

Europeans know the history of fascism much, much better than Americans do and they're electing right-wing leaders too.

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[–] leadore@lemmy.world 26 points 15 hours ago (1 children)

The ones who voted against him understand well how it happened. The ones who voted for him never questioned how, because it never entered their minds to care.

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[–] half_built_pyramids@lemmy.world 109 points 20 hours ago (52 children)

Is it because woman? Like holy shit, Biden was an old fuck and still won last time. Hillary didn't win. Wtf, is it really because woman!?

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