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[–] ShellMonkey@lemmy.socdojo.com 11 points 2 days ago

There is a separate thunderbird app from k-9 now, so apparently not just an update. Obnoxious though that the new app lists a bunch of collected data types while k-9 doesn't list any. Maybe just a legacy thing since K-9 has been around forever and they didn't list them originally, but still upsetting for the privacy minded.

TB:

K-9:

[–] AceFuzzLord@lemm.ee 7 points 2 days ago (2 children)

Not gonna lie, I was super confused why F-Droid was updating thunderbird beta on my device when I was updating apps a few days ago. Took me a while to realize k9 was apparently changed to thunderbird beta.

[–] progandy@feddit.org 2 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Apparently that is only a metadata issue that should be fixed soon(TM). The installed app is still k9 https://github.com/thunderbird/thunderbird-android/issues/8478

[–] AceFuzzLord@lemm.ee 1 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Oh... Well, too late for me. Ended up uninstalling it and replacing it with thunderbird because I thought they were rebranding it to thunderbird beta.

[–] pixelscript@lemm.ee 3 points 16 hours ago* (last edited 16 hours ago)

The two apps are identical and built from the same codebase anyway. K-9 is just a branding asset swap.

I've seen conflicting info from Thunderbird devs on how long they actually intend to keep both branding packages active. I've heard no longer than a year. I've heard only as long as it takes to get Thunderbird out of beta. I've heard they have some sort of agreement with FDroid that obligates them to keep it listed for some minimum duration of time (???). I've most recently heard indefinitely, because their build script is just a toggle now and it costs them nothing. Which one do I believe? I have no idea. I doubt K-9 will be kept around in perpetuity, though.

[–] drwankingstein@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 1 day ago (1 children)

that's annoying, I hate the new client, thanks for the heads up

[–] AceFuzzLord@lemm.ee 1 points 1 day ago (1 children)

According to someone else who replied to my comment, it seems it's some sort of metadata issue rather than an actual rebrand. I'm just an idiot who doesn't actually look deep enough into this kinda stuff.

[–] drwankingstein@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 1 day ago (1 children)

in any case, if its updating the old app to the new one that is still massively annoying. the new UI is nearly unusable for me since I usually use apps with one hand.

[–] lukecooperatus@lemmy.ml 1 points 18 hours ago (1 children)

I'm not having any issues using it with one hand so far. Not even sure what is very different about the UI beyond a different icon set and the account switcher being fewer taps to get to. I'm curious what about the new app makes it hard for you? Maybe there's something highly annoying that I haven't run across yet.

[–] drwankingstein@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 17 hours ago (1 children)

I can no longer switch users since my hands can't reach that far and I no longer have the dexterity to play phone balancing due to my RSI. I have a LG G7 thinq with lineage, I have the button that was used for AI assistance set to click the top left corner since that's fairly ubiquitous.

That opens the right side tray. I can reach all of the stuff with one hand like this. I can no longer do this with the thunder bird UI.

[–] lukecooperatus@lemmy.ml 1 points 16 hours ago (1 children)

Ah yeah that sounds really frustrating. I'm sure you've tried this already, but does Lineage have support for the one-handed mode gesture? I've had that come in handy (no pun intended) now and then.

I read somewhere that the Thunderbird team was working on fixes for the new drawer UI, here's hoping they take better accessibility in mind!

[–] drwankingstein@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 3 hours ago

I do occasionally use the one-handed stuff but unfortunately my RSI means I have poor hand-eye coordination in general which means it's also just really hard to use it like that anyways.

I'll go ahead and leave some feedback. I didn't know they were planning on reworking again.

[–] pr06lefs@lemmy.ml 8 points 2 days ago

pulled in my K9 settings and good to go, seems like.

[–] hedge@beehaw.org 5 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Does TB no longer partner with gandi or Mailfence? It used to be that when you did a new install of TB, it would provide links on how to get a new email address with one or both of them. Since TB Android looks to be basically just K9 Mail (?), I'm assuming there's no calendar or calendar sync function?

[–] _edge@discuss.tchncs.de 6 points 2 days ago

Thunderbird android is k9 mail

[–] makingStuffForFun@lemmy.ml 3 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Haven't they added telemetry and all that? Shame if so.

I like k9. Let's see if this improves it, or not.

[–] noodlejetski@lemm.ee 9 points 1 day ago

it's on by default in beta, off in stable.