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    [–] computerscientistII@lemm.ee 1 points 2 hours ago

    I use Windows 11 without an MS account and with Classic Shell. You can hardly tell a difference. I will continue using it. Because I can't be bothered not to. It also came with my computer (well, W10 did but the upgrade worked painlessly).

    [–] LordWiggle@lemmy.world 17 points 19 hours ago (14 children)

    Turning an OS to subscription based. World class assholes. The alternative is win11, which is even more shit while they are working hard to fuck that shitshow even more up. Yeah, Linux is the way to go.

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    [–] CaptnNMorgan@lemmy.world 3 points 18 hours ago (3 children)

    If I didn't have to wait for games I'm anticipating before release to work on Linux, I would have happily learned how to use Linux years ago. I pretty much only use my PC as an entertainment system; games, movies/tv, internet use. I like to mod my games and modding on Windows has become so easy that it's actually feasible to help my PC inept friends get a working load order without committing a weekend. Unless the larger nexus modding community as a majority switch to Linux, I don't see myself switching for a long time

    [–] flashgnash@lemm.ee 1 points 11 hours ago* (last edited 11 hours ago)

    I regularly buy new games on release on Linux without even checking, play with friends on windows and have yet to be burned

    Helldivers was a bit janky to begin with but with some custom launch options it ran fine

    [–] asexualchangeling@lemmy.ml 3 points 17 hours ago

    It's still pretty heavily work progress, but I recommend that you at least keep an eye on the Nexus mods app, It's designed to be compatible with both Windows and Linux, but it's as of yet only compatible with a few games and doesn't yet update properly, But that's one of the things they're working on sooner rather than later from what I've seen.

    https://trello.com/b/gPzMuIr3/nexus-mods-app-roadmap

    [–] absentbird@lemm.ee 2 points 17 hours ago

    Most games work day one these days with proton. How is modding more difficult on Linux? I feel like it's easier, but maybe I'm just used to it.

    [–] HStone32@lemmy.world 38 points 1 day ago

    The way everyone talked about Linux, I thought it would be a transient interest I would eventually tire of. I've known a lot of professors who say they liked Linux back in the 90s, but decided they couldn't keep up with it, and have gone back to windows/apple.

    I never anticipated that 4 years ago, when I booted up Linux for the first time, that it would also be the last time I shut down Windows. Furthermore, the likelihood of me ever going back seems to be getting smaller and smaller every day.

    [–] Mandy@sh.itjust.works 85 points 1 day ago (1 children)

    Most people don't even know what a browser is, let alone an os

    [–] dragonfucker@lemmy.nz 9 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

    Yes they do. They know a Mac is different to a PC and they know a phone isn't the same as a desktop. They just don't know what that's called. They still have an intuitive understanding. They still understand that phones do annoying things like denying file system access. They understand that Microsoft products make it harder to save files for no reason. Most people understand the appeal of Linux if you explain it in familiar language. They've just been conditioned by society to fear change.

    [–] Mandy@sh.itjust.works 21 points 1 day ago (10 children)

    sorry man you are a perfect example of the comic.
    cause most people also dont know what denying system file access even means.

    [–] Mango@lemmy.world 1 points 18 hours ago

    They certainly know that it's bullshit to find half the stuff they saved because it's not in folders that make sense to them.

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    [–] CarbonatedPastaSauce@lemmy.world 48 points 1 day ago (6 children)

    Worked on me, I finally switched (like, REALLY switched) on my primary PC this year after using Linux only for servers and hobby projects for a long time. My only regret is that I may not live long enough to have used Linux longer than I used Windows. I'd have to make it to my mid 80's just to break even.

    Valve gets all the credit. Gaming was the main thing holding me back all this time.

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    [–] frayedpickles@lemmy.cafe 22 points 1 day ago (2 children)

    Truly 2024 is the year of the Linux desktop. no notes.

    [–] iopq@lemmy.world 21 points 1 day ago (1 children)

    It was actually 2022, the year when steam deck released. The proton compatibility shot through the roof. Linux now supports a far wider array of software than MacOS, even.

    [–] NutWrench@lemmy.ml 6 points 18 hours ago

    Proton is amazing. All the Steam games I bought in Windows run great in Linux Mint.

    [–] WhiskyTangoFoxtrot@lemmy.world 6 points 1 day ago (2 children)

    It'll probably be 2025, when adoption hits 5% a few months before Windows 10 support ends. The 5% will make people take Linux more seriously when looking for alternatives to Windows 10, which will increase adoption even more, which will cause hardware and software providers to offer better Linux support, which will just cause the whole thing to snowball.

    [–] woelkchen@lemmy.world 3 points 18 hours ago

    The "year of the Linux desktop" was ages ago when Intel started developing drivers upstream in Linux, Mesa, and Xorg. This lead do AMD and others doing the same. None of the current developments, including Steam Deck, would have happened without that.

    [–] JamesBoeing737MAX@sopuli.xyz 2 points 19 hours ago

    Well, this was probably also anticipated with win 8 and 10, but it (sadly) didn't happen.

    [–] Kecessa@sh.itjust.works 25 points 1 day ago (3 children)

    Keep dreaming, people will keep on using Windows because they don't care about the bloat, they just want something that works and that doesn't require fucking around for hours every time they plug something new in!

    [–] spookex@lemmy.world 1 points 2 hours ago

    It really is amazing how I can mess up Linux installs for the weirdest of reasons.

    Install arch from scratch on a laptop? Now it either doesn't go to sleep when you close the laptop or a kernel panick.

    Manjaro? Edited the config for the touchpad (of course it's a random config file that you have to change line by line and read 3 wiki pages for, because Linux) because it doesn't feel like windows and ran updates from the built in manager within the os. Now it doesn't boot at all and causes the boot logo to ghost while using windows 10 installed on another partition.

    Pop_os? Worked mostly fine, used it for months, broke it only once when using the built in package manager somehow fixed it, but stopped using that laptop and now I can't boot into it at all.

    Not to mention all of the software that partially doesn't work or work at all. Like, my personal choice for image editing is paint.net, it's not a useless meme like MS Paint, but also isn't the equivalent of using a bucket wheel excavator for digging a hole in your backyard like Gimp. It also doesn't work on Linux at all

    [–] herrvogel@lemmy.world 4 points 20 hours ago (2 children)

    I use Linux myself, but my work laptop they gave me is windows. I can honestly say that I believe in near future the average Linux experience is going to be smoother than windows. Because I cannot believe how insanely annoying windows 11 is. It's really not good. And modern Linux has more than good enough software and hardware compatibility.

    But of course it's gonna take a long while before Linux overtakes windows because social inertia. And that's not gonna change easily because there is no humongous international corporation that spends billions every year to get their Linux based OS pre-installed on almost every new computer.

    [–] Zink@programming.dev 1 points 10 hours ago

    My work laptop was your standard Dell with windows and M365. I am now able to dual boot Linux, which is what my computer boots into by default now.

    I can honestly say that in the current day, Linux Mint gives a much smoother experience on the same hardware. It even supports multiple monitors better.

    I will grant that I’m a computer nerd like plenty of others here, so there may be some speed bumps that didn’t even register for me. But everything from installation, to daily use, to updates, is SO much smoother and faster.

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    [–] kusivittula@sopuli.xyz 23 points 1 day ago (3 children)

    i doubt the average user even understands what an operating system means and they'll just go with thatever it came with

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