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Panther Lake and Nova Lake laptops will return to traditional RAM sticks

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[–] ravhall 10 points 2 days ago

Blaming loss on SoC? Lmfao. SoC is better. Just stop offering a lower tier and make all SoC 32gb+

… looking at you too, Apple.

[–] TheHobbyist@lemmy.zip 10 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (4 children)

I'm wondering, the integrated RAM like Intel did for Lunar Lake, could the same performance be achieved with the latest CAMM modules? The only real way to go integrated to get the most out of it is doing it with HBM, anything else seems like a bad trade-off.

So either you go HBM with real bandwidth and latency gains or CAMM with decent performance and upgradeable RAM sticks. But the on-chip ram like Intel did is neither providing the HBM performance nor the CAMM modularity.

[–] just_another_person@lemmy.world 5 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

The transfer speed isn't the big issue, it's the density and reliability. Packing more heat generating stuff onto the SoC package just makes it more difficult to dissipate. The transfer of data to where it needs to be is still the same, so the trade-off is pretty null in that sense except reduction of overall power consumption.

[–] bruhduh@lemmy.world 3 points 2 days ago

Look up intel i7 8709g

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[–] RedWeasel@lemmy.world 7 points 2 days ago (3 children)

I see the idea of Intel dropping arc as good news for AMD. Intel was going to chip at AMD’s marketshare well before Nvidia’s. It would be better to have more competition though.

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[–] bruhduh@lemmy.world 3 points 2 days ago

They have to try revive their idea like they did in intel core i7 8709g first though

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