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[–] Ram_The_Manparts@hexbear.net 14 points 2 months ago (2 children)

It must be so fucking exhausting going through life thinking there are Russians hiding in every shadow.

[–] Red_Sunshine_Over_Florida@hexbear.net 11 points 2 months ago (1 children)

I have to remind my mother not to panic when my dad FaceTimes with his Russian penpals. She's like "They're the enemy!" Again, I eternally hate CNN for messing up my parent's brains.

[–] Ram_The_Manparts@hexbear.net 8 points 2 months ago

Damn that sucks

[–] SkingradGuard@hexbear.net 3 points 2 months ago

If it's not Russians, they blame it on China

[–] Frank@hexbear.net 8 points 2 months ago

to people who feel deprived of a clear social identity, Ur-Fascism says that their only privilege is the most common one, to be born in the same country. This is the origin of nationalism. Besides, the only ones who can provide an identity to the nation are its enemies. Thus at the root of the Ur-Fascist psychology there is the obsession with a plot, possibly an international one. The followers must feel besieged. The easiest way to solve the plot is the appeal to xenophobia. But the plot must also come from the inside: Jews are usually the best target because they have the advantage of being at the same time inside and outside. In the U.S., a prominent instance of the plot obsession is to be found in Pat Robertson’s The New World Order, but, as we have recently seen, there are many others.

OBSESSION WITH A PLOT!

[–] BelieveRevolt@hexbear.net 7 points 2 months ago

The Intercept has fallen so far.

If you get a prompt to enter an email address, you can just fill in pretty much anything that has an @ in it. I used pigpoop@balls.com.

[–] RedWizard@hexbear.net 4 points 2 months ago (2 children)

What is the most succinct way to dismiss russiagate nonsense when it's brought up in conversation?

[–] BodyBySisyphus@hexbear.net 7 points 2 months ago

Most succinct: So?
Less succinct: So what?
Less succinct, but potentially funny: Why didn't Obama do something about it, then?

[–] Belly_Beanis@hexbear.net 2 points 2 months ago

I just point out the US does it, too. All governments, actually. It would be more surprising if there was a government anywhere on the planet who wasn't spying on another country and sending propaganda. It's just how international politics works. Even Canada spies on the US and sends pro-Canadian propaganda our way. And we do it right back to them.

The only way any of it is effective is if there's already people in the target country willing to accept the propaganda. If people weren't receptive to it, the country doing the attack would switch to some other tactic, like sabotage or theft.

Liberals who pearlclutch over Russia should be more concerned about why there are these black holes in politics. Like why can a foreign country buy campaign ads in the US in the first place? Then you can steer things towards Citizens United or copaganda.