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[–] flying_sheep@lemmy.ml 9 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago) (2 children)

Ooo damn that sounds exactly what I'd like to try.

On the other hand I feel like I'm too old for this shit. My system works fine, I understand everything, and things rarely break and never in an unrecoverable way.

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[–] PotatoesFall@discuss.tchncs.de 8 points 4 days ago (21 children)

I thought we all agreed that "immutable" is a confusing term and that we should call it "atomic"

[–] Lemmchen@feddit.org 6 points 4 days ago (2 children)
[–] priapus@sh.itjust.works 4 points 4 days ago

Fedora has pushed for the change by rebranding their immutable distros as Fedora Atomic Desktops, and these are likely the most popular immutable distros. Bazzite's homepage also describes the distro as atomic, but never mentions the term immutable.

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[–] thingsiplay@beehaw.org 4 points 4 days ago

Not all. Red Hat started this by naming their immutable distributions with "atomic" (but then not consistently...). Some people agreed, but not everyone.

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[–] LavenderDay3544@lemmy.world 5 points 4 days ago (1 children)

I use Fedora KDE but this one sounds like exactly what I need. I primarily use Linux for software dev and web browsing and Windows for gaming and Office.

[–] hessnake@lemmy.world 4 points 3 days ago (2 children)

Fedora Kinoite exists already. It's my daily driver for dev and gaming and works great for me.

[–] LavenderDay3544@lemmy.world 1 points 3 days ago

I use normal KDE because I don't know how much of a hassle it would be to put everything in containers and use flatpaks for everything.

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[–] dustyData@lemmy.world 7 points 4 days ago (1 children)

Maybe they'll fix the sddm custom theming? It's currently broken on all immutables and doesn't allow custom themes.

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[–] UnfortunateShort@lemmy.world 6 points 4 days ago

Ingl, this sounds like exactly the thing I want. Immutability aside, this is how I use EndeavourOS right now, but more sophisticated.

I'm sold on it.

[–] whaleross@lemmy.world 3 points 3 days ago

I found out about this yesterday when searching for the KDE sources to make some alterations to the lock screen. I guess this distro is not for me.

[–] fruitycoder@sh.itjust.works 4 points 4 days ago (1 children)

Ehh to snaps. That would 100% be the first thing of support to drop if I were them. That said it cool to see more immutable distros experimenting, I wonder how much overlap there is the Kalpa since it is btfs based.

Honestly there definitely still seems some good space for innovation in the immutable space before we "figure it out", so the more smart people experimenting the better!

[–] Corgana@startrek.website 4 points 3 days ago

I am not an expert but I don't think Snap support can be added to an immutable distro after installation, meaning there is going to be some software that simply cannot be easily installed. Snap support is basically a legacy support feature at this point but I think it's nice to cover their bases if they are trying to make something for widespread adoption.

[–] PseudoSpock@lemmy.dbzer0.com 4 points 4 days ago (2 children)

Will they be using btrfs snapshots or subvolumes to make it immutable?

[–] pastermil@sh.itjust.works 8 points 4 days ago

Snapshots are subvolumes.

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[–] Hexadecimalkink@lemmy.ml 3 points 4 days ago (24 children)

Just curious because Distrowatch can be easily gamed; does anyone know how this might affect the linux consumer market? I'm using Mint and see no reason to switch to this. I used to nerd out about different distros but aside from the enterprise distros or Debian or Arch preferences I don't see why people are using smaller distros anymore. Hobbyist i guess?

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[–] superkret@feddit.org 4 points 4 days ago (1 children)

Sounds like Kinoite with extra steps.

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[–] that_leaflet@lemmy.world 4 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago) (2 children)

Makes sense that it includes snap given that KDE officially supports their apps packaged as snaps, unlike Gnome.

If I recall correctly, aren’t they going for an Arch base? I assume they’re going to be enabling AppArmor so that the snap sandboxing is mostly working, except for the patches Canonical have failed to upstream so far.

[–] fruitycoder@sh.itjust.works 3 points 4 days ago

Supporting both snaps and apparmor above selinux would be disappointing to me. Snaps more so, I at least get why AppArmor has supporters

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