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Now if only they could more clearly communicate when games are playable offline.

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[–] sonymegadrive@feddit.uk 81 points 6 days ago (8 children)

Easy Anti Cheat - requires manual removal

Wait, so this sketchy, privacy-invading stuff remains even after a game is uninstalled?! I had no idea.

How is this stuff not classed as malware at this point?

[–] sp3tr4l@lemmy.zip 22 points 6 days ago

Oh it was initially classed as insanely intrusive malware when kernel level AC was introduced about a decade ago, by anyone with a modicum of actual technical knowledge about computers.

Unfortunately, a whole lot of corpo shills ran propaganda explaining how actually its fine, don't worry, its actually the best way to stop cheaters!

Then the vast, vast majority of idiot gamers believed that, or threw their hands up and went oh well its the new norm, trying to fight it is futile and actually if you are against this that means you are some kind of paranoid privacy freak who hates other people having fun.

[–] michaelmrose@lemmy.world 14 points 6 days ago

Do you remember when Sony released cds that when inserted into Windows computer auto ran an installer that installed a rootkit that made it impossible for Windows to see any processes or files that started with a certain sequence of characters instantly turning any malware that named its files or processes similarly powerful rootkit. Oh and it installed a cd driver that made it impossible to copy their music.

Suggested removal was a full reinstall of windows.

[–] Crozekiel@lemmy.zip 9 points 6 days ago

I've been shouting from the rooftops for years that this stuff is malware. I'm not the only one. No one listens.

[–] yamanii@lemmy.world 3 points 6 days ago (1 children)

Plenty of games use it, if it uninstalled with each one then others would stop working.

[–] cyberpunk007@lemmy.ca 1 points 4 days ago

I kind of assumed it would be packaged with each game, a waste of space (but how big could it be?) but leaving a game with anti cheat a global dependency seems like a bad idea.

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[–] captain_aggravated@sh.itjust.works 43 points 6 days ago (4 children)

I wonder if you phrased it the way the Play store does: This game wants permission to:

  • send SMS messages
  • make calls
  • know your location
  • stalk your family
  • raid your fridge
  • access, read and upload files
  • manage and add contacts
  • cup your balls
  • go through your trash
  • irritate your boss

etc.

Think anyone would install them?

Cup my balls? Go on...

[–] Nexy@lemmy.sdf.org 9 points 6 days ago (1 children)

i dONt hAVe anYThinG To HIdE

[–] captain_aggravated@sh.itjust.works 17 points 6 days ago (1 children)

Anyone who says that while wearing pants is a filthy liar.

[–] lud@lemm.ee 5 points 6 days ago

I mean it's also pretty cold without pants.

[–] linearchaos@lemmy.world 3 points 6 days ago

looks at Disney pluses binding arbitration clause

Yup

[–] Vilian@lemmy.ca 2 points 6 days ago (1 children)

of course, people don't even look at play store permissions

I suppose they do suffer from the "Known in the state of Cancer to cause California" problem. A bubble level app wants in-app purchases and GPS access.

[–] ThermonuclearCactus@lemmy.blahaj.zone 20 points 6 days ago (1 children)

I bought Sea of Thieves about 5 years ago. Recently, they added kernal-level anticheat (which does precisely fuck-all to actually stop cheating). While that is annoying, I'm not particularly worried because the studio that makes that game is owned by Microsoft, and like all Microsoft products, it was banished to my windows partition with the rest of the spyware.

[–] MoonHawk@lemmy.world 11 points 6 days ago (2 children)

Well... kernel level software can access everything on your computer. That includes other partitions and unmounted drives

[–] raspberriesareyummy@lemmy.world 11 points 6 days ago

Only if those other partitions are not encrypted. Sure, it could still wipe them - but that's something that backups are good for, and something you would certainly notice immediately :)

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[–] MyNameIsAtticus@lemmy.world 9 points 6 days ago (2 children)

This will be helpful for discerning if a game can run on the Steam Deck. There's not many games that don't have verification (Either by Valve or ProtonDB) but for newer games with anticheat it will serve as a good rule of thumb i imagine

[–] cyberpunk007@lemmy.ca 2 points 5 days ago

Lots of games with anti cheat auto work under wine/proton. The most on top of my head example is Elden ring. Runs fine on my desktop with arch, as well as my steam deck.

[–] EdgeRunner@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 6 days ago

I think that's the main goal behind,
To avoid frustration for steamD owners and avoid a bad reputation of "all games are unplayable on it"

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