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[–] expatriado@lemmy.world 66 points 2 weeks ago

with blackjack and hookers

[–] adespoton@lemmy.ca 42 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

They haven’t been removed from the community though — just the maintainers list. Now they need someone else’s review to commit code to the kernel.

Personally, I think even maintainers should be required to have that — you can be the committer for pre-reviewed code from others, but not just be able to check anything you want in, no matter your reputation (even if you’re Linus). That way a security breach is less likely to cause havoc.

[–] Ephera@lemmy.ml 13 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

I find that difficult. Aside from code reviews, often times your job as a maintainer is:

  • getting a refactor or code cleanup in while everyone's asleep
  • shuffling commits around between branches
  • fixing the CI toolchain
  • rolling back or repairing a broken change
  • unfucking the repo
  • fixing a security vulnerability

A required review slows all of these tasks to a crawl. I do agree that the kernel is important enough that it might be worth the trade-off.
But at the same, I do not feel like I could do my (non-kernel) maintainer job without direct commit access...

[–] adespoton@lemmy.ca 5 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

I feel your pain. I have maintainer roles for a few projects where things could be slowed down by a week or more if I didn’t have direct commit access. And I do use that access to make things run faster and smoother, and am able to step in and just get something fixed up and committed while everyone else is asleep. But. For security critical code paths, I’ve come to realize that much like Debian, sometimes slow and secure IS better, even if it doesn’t feel like it in the moment (like when you’re trying to commit and deploy a critical security patch already being exploited in the wild, and NOBODY is around to do the review, or there’s something upstream that needs to be fixed before your job can go out).

[–] baggins@beehaw.org 29 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

We'll build our own Linux, with blackjack and hookers!

[–] ulkesh@beehaw.org 6 points 2 weeks ago

Dammit, I was a day late on making this joke. Filthy Bagginses.

[–] 30p87@feddit.org -1 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (1 children)

* fascism and no human rights

[–] dessalines@lemmy.ml 4 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

The country that Linux is domiciled in currently (US), has slave labor camps:

  • The US currently operates a system of slave labor camps, including at least 54 prison farms involved in agricultural slave labor. Outside of agricultural slavery, Federal Prison Industries operates a multi-billion dollar industry with ~ 52 prison factories , where prisoners produce furniture, clothing, circuit boards, products for the military, computer aided design services, call center support for private companies. 1, 2, 3

It also has the highest prisoner population in the world both by capita and total.

Russia's prison rates don't even come close to the majority of US states, including even California.

[–] 30p87@feddit.org 0 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Yeah, the USA is shit, in a lot of ways. And it's steering towards being like russia. Still, russia is worse in terms of overall human rights.

[–] dessalines@lemmy.ml 0 points 2 weeks ago

Russia would need a hundred years more of existence to even come close to the amount of atrocities the US has and continues to commit.

[–] jaybone@lemmy.world 25 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

It’s like exactly what I said they would do after the original news of the bans from the other day. And I got downvoted for it. Lol

[–] deafboy@lemmy.world 12 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

That's because they're not going to actually do it.

[–] refalo@programming.dev 4 points 2 weeks ago

you can't know that

[–] yogthos@lemmy.ml 3 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

It's almost certain that they will be doing it and that Chinese will join in because they're the obvious next target.

[–] Cornelius@lemmy.ml 2 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Dunno why this is being down voted, obviously they'll make their own fork and it'll likely be no different than the regular kernel and they'll just be constantly rebasing

[–] yogthos@lemmy.ml 1 points 2 weeks ago

That's likely what's going to happen in short to medium term, but it's quite possible it'll diverge eventually. We can look at Huawei forking Android as an example here, they kept it largely compatible for a few years, and then started taking things in a new direction that broke compatibility. Between Russia and China alone there's a huge pool of talented developers who can rival anything developers in the west can do.

[–] Louisoix@lemm.ee 1 points 2 weeks ago

And then everyone will start clapping.

[–] PanArab@lemmy.ml 13 points 2 weeks ago

More options is good for everyone

[–] gazter@aussie.zone 13 points 2 weeks ago (3 children)

The possibilities for naming their distro are endless...

[–] OwlPaste@lemmy.world 10 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

Will we finally get the "Putinix" distribution that mines cryptocurrency for the regime by default? It will have to be a new coin called "RuOil"

[–] ReakDuck@lemmy.ml 6 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Especially, because they can chose existing names as there is no Copyright in Russia (afaik, probably a wrong myth but idk)

[–] OwlPaste@lemmy.world 3 points 2 weeks ago

No there was copyright, it was only relatively enforced between 2000-2015 ish. And then probably only in tourist heavy areas. In the olden days you could find any soft on "black markets" in open stalls

[–] monk@lemmy.unboiled.info 1 points 1 week ago

They already have a dozen, they all suck.

[–] masterspace@lemmy.ca 9 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)
[–] tetris11@lemmy.ml 5 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

This joke hasn't aged well. I took it as is and just assumed the Dad put together a micro PC with a PS2 emulator on it, and then I stared at the article for 5 minutes looking for the punchline.

[–] masterspace@lemmy.ca 3 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

The joke still works fine, just replace PS2 with PS5 in your head.

[–] tetris11@lemmy.ml 1 points 2 weeks ago
[–] fruitycoder@sh.itjust.works 1 points 2 weeks ago

Exactly I fully expect Russia to continue cutting edge early 2000s os development

[–] JusticeForPorygon@lemmy.world 6 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)
[–] mihor@lemmy.ml 2 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Should be interesting, perhaps the Russian fork will become even more successful than the canonical.

[–] Roopappy@lemmy.ml 3 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Yeah, I wonder which one I'll choose.

[–] yogthos@lemmy.ml 1 points 2 weeks ago

whichever one NSA tells you to use

[–] Rin@lemm.ee 3 points 2 weeks ago

Gl with thst vro

[–] Fontasia@feddit.nl 3 points 2 weeks ago

Sounds like a pretty average day in the Linux community