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Fuck the Indian state and its enablers.

Me, viewing banned Wikipedia articles:

I don't know what exactly is blocked worldwde, but in the frenche Wikipedia here, while the description is short, it's here and extremely explicit:

[ANI] est pointée comme une « fabrique de fake news », un canal de désinformation proche du gouvernement indien4, dont les articles citent pour décrédibiliser les rivaux du pays de prétendus experts inventés de toutes pièces in other words, '{the ANI news agency] is considered a fake news factory and a deinformation channel close to the government whose papers use to quote invented fake experts to de-credibilize rival countries' Couldn't be clearer (and unbanned)...

I think this is confusing so tried to understand it and here is what I understand. The Wikipedia page for Asian News International is up. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Asian_News_International And it says things like ANI is the "mouthpiece" of the Indian government. There is a section about the lawsuit and it quotes what ANI didn't like about it. This is what the lawsuit was first about, but this page and the discussion page are still up as of 27 Oct 2024. The page can't be modified and given what you can see it looks like there was some editing wars that happened before editing was taken away.

Now about https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Asian_News_International_vs._Wikimedia_Foundation The article and discussion page that was taken down is about the ongoing lawsuit. It been replaced with a page saying it was taken down and a link to the actual lawsuit. Which I suggest people read. I do think the Indian government has a point if you read the lawsuit. This is a ongoing lawsuit and the page taken down had info on it and a discussion page where people were talking about the ongoing lawsuit. The lawsuit says that this "...Complicates and compounds the issue at hand." And if you know anything about lawsuits the first thing people do or are told to do is to shut up about it. This page was really the opposite. I can see why Wikimedia complied.

That the lawsuit happened in the first place is disturbing. But I think Wikimedia replacement page for the ongoing lawsuit is not surprising and reasonable. If they had taken down the main article, now that would be disturbing.

Fuck the Indian regime.

Lot of knee jerk reaction here, to the point of not donating and abandoning the greatest collective effort made on the Internet.

The specific suspended page directly relates to an ongoing lawsuit, where WikiMedia is the defendant.

Also, Streisand effect much? :D

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Asian_News_International_vs._Wikimedia_Foundation

wtf??????????

Why would they even bother to comply, India has no jurisdiction. Plenty of countries have banned wikipedia pages and the entire site before, why did wikimedia have to go out of their way to do it for them globally?

if this 👇 happened in France, than of course that 👆 can happen in India

The DCRI summoned a Wikipedia volunteer in their offices on April 4th [2013]. This volunteer, which was one of those having access to the tools that allow the deletion of pages, was forced to delete the article while in the DCRI offices, on the understanding that he would have been held in custody and prosecuted if he did not comply. Under pressure, he had no other choice than to delete the article, despite explaining to the DCRI this is not how Wikipedia works. He warned the other sysops that trying to undelete the article would engage their responsibility before the law. This volunteer had no link with that article, having never edited it and not even knowing of its existence before entering the DCRI offices. He was chosen and summoned because he was easily identifiable, given his regular promotional actions of Wikipedia and Wikimedia projects in France.

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Fake news got its feelz hurt

I think nothing can be worse for a news agency than to be called a puppet of an intelligence agency, stooge of the government. If that is true, the credibility goes

So close and yet still missing the point. It's not that wikipedia says it, it's that it's the truth, and we can't have website showing true facts, something this judge no doubt understands very well (or at least his wallet does)

Frack all of these people, I'm so tired about a few authoritarian narcissists making the world a shit show.

Blocking an article worldwide based on the orders of a single oppressive regime? That settles it, Wikipedia is no longer worth donating to, since they've proven they're willing to bow to this type of thing rather than stand behind the truth.

I would expect something like this from my mother country sooner than India. Surprised but not that surprised. The precedent being set is concerning.

How can they block this for everyone?

WTF, If wikipedia get blocked in my country. Then, I am just graduating to leave my shitty country.

This is pretty big news, I would think it would be relevant in way more than just one article, time to do some updating.

Somehow it doesn't surprise me that India wants to ban free flipping knowledge

Seems like a good opportunity to remind folks about the Kiwix project, which allows you to download local private copies of select information such as Wikipedia. It was originally created to provide offline access to content for countries that were otherwise blocked, but events like this have sparked some recent discussion about archiving older files to preserve history.

So, lemme get this straight: Wikipedia is being censored (worldwide, might I add) because a party complains that they are reported of as being accused of a thing, or because of the thing itself?

Hahaha go ahead and block it you dumb fucks, only your citizenry will suffer.

Follow the case here: https://delhihighcourt.nic.in/court/dhc_case_status_list_new?sno=1&ctype=CS%28OS%29&cno=524&cyear=2024

Why not allow India to block Wikipedia? Or have a filter that hides Indians dark secrets, when coming from India.