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[–] xantoxis@lemmy.world 106 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (7 children)

The missing words are "shitty" and "fucking", btw. I feel like we're getting crap posts like this from bots that aren't willing to tailor their posts for places where naughty words are allowed. Or reposts of bots' output. Either way, I'm tired of it.

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[–] sunshine@lemmy.ml 44 points 1 week ago (1 children)

And yet with Firefox+ublock it is still 10000000 times better than its competitors.

[–] bali10050@lemmy.world 4 points 1 week ago (2 children)

There's only one competitor, apple, and also, I don't think that firefox mobile is that good. It's better than chrome, and I'm using it, but I don't know why would a device with 12gb of ram, a high-res display, a processor that can run warzone can't run the normal version of firefox with a different ui. I think it just splits development, and I don't like how it's always behind in development, and how it lacks features.

[–] NateSwift@lemmy.world 12 points 1 week ago

Apple doesn’t have functioning adblock on safari. There are a handful of extensions that promise to and none of them work as well as ublock

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[–] whereBeWaldo@lemmy.dbzer0.com 38 points 1 week ago

Eww self censorship

[–] KazuchijouNo@lemy.lol 25 points 1 week ago (4 children)

I'm on a rooted android 8.0.1 Oreo.

That's right, my android still has a food related name. Step aside losers

My Samsung J7 is old enough to go to elementary school and is as snappy and functional as the day I got it. Haven't had a phone in more than half a decade.

I also have a functional Samsung S5 booted with android 12, courtesy of Lineage OS

[–] itslilith@lemmy.blahaj.zone 4 points 1 week ago

Android 8.0.0 reporting in o7

I checked it a while ago, my phone turned seven this summer

kinda miss system-level darkmode, since many apps don't allow you to choose theme yourself anymore, but eh, what gives

[–] lowleekun@ani.social 2 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Damn is the S5 actually still usable with that OS? I loved that phone and still use it as an alarm clock (original batterie even).

[–] KazuchijouNo@lemy.lol 2 points 1 week ago

Yeah! It gets a bit hot tho, so I'm using it on battery saving mode with low specs, and I cannot have it in my pants' pocket for too long or it crashes. But it does work.

[–] umbrella@lemmy.ml 2 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

yeah, its mostly all the garbage they bake into the stock roms.

remember laptops, where they were expected to need a reformat out of the box? same for phones but the process is much more complicated and locks you out of banking apps.

[–] KazuchijouNo@lemy.lol 2 points 1 week ago (2 children)

Actually, I was able to patch (lucky-patcher) my bank app to remove the module that detects root. So I haven't had issues with that :D

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[–] 10_0@lemmy.world 25 points 1 week ago (1 children)

What are the censored words, my enjoyment of this meme is now halved because of this, down voted

[–] prettybunnys@sh.itjust.works 12 points 1 week ago

shitty, fucking

[–] moosetwin@lemmy.dbzer0.com 22 points 1 week ago

with my phone from 6 years ago I could use a micro SD card as internal storage

my phone nowadays installs gambling apps I didn't download and has rooting deliberately locked down

[–] Bosht@lemmy.world 21 points 1 week ago

The Enshittification continues. Nothing is sacred.

[–] mycodesucks@lemmy.world 19 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

The absolute most salient proof of the inadequacy of market capitalism is that when the mobile market consolidated, THESE are the two choices we wound up with. Talk about a giant douche and a turd sandwich...

[–] Natanox@discuss.tchncs.de 2 points 1 week ago

A third one is being worked on silently (Linux Mobile), however that will most likely only be a niche choice for those who already ain't being caught and locked into Silicon Valleys "products". Due to its very nature there is no VC money involved and therefore no big fanfare planed, even when finished.

It's still very much a dev platform right now, even though the Pinephone is freely purchasable.

[–] Ironfacebuster@lemmy.world 18 points 1 week ago

Noticed the meme was censored so I tried my best to fill in the blanks based on the information I had

Hope it helps

[–] FeelzGoodMan420@eviltoast.org 17 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Meme ruined by censorship. Rip.

[–] Martineski@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 1 week ago

There gotta be a community for that out there somewhere.

[–] solomon42069@lemmy.world 15 points 1 week ago

Of course its slower.. how else are they gonna con millions of people into buying new smartphones they don't need?

[–] pewpew@feddit.it 14 points 1 week ago (1 children)

It may be your phone manifacturer slowing down the OS. My phone doesn't feel slower

[–] bali10050@lemmy.world 2 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Good for you, what brand is it?

[–] pewpew@feddit.it 9 points 1 week ago (2 children)
[–] bali10050@lemmy.world 4 points 1 week ago (1 children)

In what price-range does it worth it? The people I know who had those said that they were bad, but they all bought the extremely cheap ones

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[–] vala@lemmy.world 13 points 1 week ago

The new android file permissions are actually terrible. It's broken so much stuff and made the whole os much less useful.

[–] henfredemars@infosec.pub 12 points 1 week ago (2 children)

Funny, though they have actually been working hard on optimization too. For a great example, see changes like userfaultfd garbage collection in 13.

[–] Ephera@lemmy.ml 3 points 1 week ago (1 children)

I feel like the whole JVM stack is just kind of a lost cause. We've been throwing bigger hardware at it and optimizing it for decades, but the crappy iPhone my workplace gave me, still feels smoother in every way...

[–] henfredemars@infosec.pub 2 points 1 week ago

I believe back in Android N there was a move to compile all apps to native before running. Currently, Android relies on Android RunTime (ART) and it tries to keep everything performance critical in compiled code, but it's not perfect. You do still have a JVM and there's still garbage collection.

[–] bali10050@lemmy.world 2 points 1 week ago

I don't know what are they optimizing it for, when I click on something, it still takes a year to load, the only difference I feel between my current phone and my first android is that this one has a much larger screen, and this one costs 10 times more. In my opinion, android has been going backwards since around 8.0

[–] ProdigalFrog@slrpnk.net 11 points 1 week ago (1 children)

My old pixel 4a with graphene os is still as fluid and snappy as the day I bought it.

[–] bali10050@lemmy.world 3 points 1 week ago

My samsung was working fine for 1-2 months, since then, it's just lagging and things. I tried resetting, sending it back to samsung to see if it has hardware problems, but it's still bad. Had a nokia and a huawei before that, and another samsung, I even had some off brands when I wasn't so financially good but since 2016-17 it feels to me like development has taken a turn backwards, they stopped adding new things, started taking away privileges from the user, and they are trying to hit the same performance with much stronger hardware. Also, twitter still takes 7 seconds to load, but now you can have a 200MP camera with that

[–] umbrella@lemmy.ml 11 points 1 week ago (1 children)

same with windows 11. same functionality, somehow twice the system requirements.

[–] Natanox@discuss.tchncs.de 6 points 1 week ago (1 children)

And with "AI" this will only get worse. How much disk space will "Recall" snatch for their keylogger again, about 32gb?

[–] umbrella@lemmy.ml 2 points 1 week ago

not to mention ssd wear

[–] SquirtleHermit@lemmy.world 10 points 1 week ago (2 children)

What phone you got? My busted ass OnePlus 7 still runs pretty quick, least fast enough that I never complain. Was thinking about replacing it with a Fairphone 5 when the time comes, which even feels fast enough to me despite the limited hardware in that.

[–] Zulu@lemmy.world 4 points 1 week ago

Old oneplus gang! Dozens of us!

[–] Iheartcheese@lemmy.world 2 points 1 week ago (4 children)

Dude probably has a ZTE or some shit like that.

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[–] PlasticExistence@lemmy.world 10 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

OP, I mostly agree with what you’re saying about Android. I’ve been a user since 2010, and development of mainline Android stagnated about a decade ago. Google isn’t really trying very hard anymore. I got an iPhone this round as my main device. I still have plenty of other Android devices as well as my last phone (OnePlus 8T) that I will continue to use, but I’m enjoying most of the change in user experience to iOS. It’s smoother and better thought out in most respects.

If your device is really that slow though, are you sure the battery is good? They will definitely slow down when the battery ages to prevent sudden shutdowns if the CPU were to try to use more power than the battery can supply. I think that a bad battery can do the same even if it’s not old.

If not that, how is the custom ROM scene for your phone? That may be a solution if it’s possible. Manufactures like Samsung sometimes go overboard with additions to the OS that just screw things up. Samsung was probably the worst offender in this regard back when the first Galaxy devices launched.

[–] TheRealKuni@lemmy.world 3 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Yup. I went to the dark side and bought an iPhone when my OnePlus 7T Pro 5G McLaren Edition died (RIP, prince of phones) and I’ve enjoyed it greatly. iOS has come a LONG way in the last decade or so.

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[–] AI_toothbrush@lemmy.zip 6 points 1 week ago

Every time i see an arm emulation handheld that uses android instead of linux my blood boils. The thing is, linux is scalable. Android and windows arent. If you have weaker hardware you have to put an older version of android or windows on it. Thats why you see recently released arm chips that only support up to android 8. If your hardware is too slow for linux you just use a lighter version of it. Also the features like suspend are just so good on linux handhelds.

[–] AstralPath@lemmy.ca 6 points 1 week ago

This is just amother reason I bought a Pixel for GrapheneOS.

[–] AVincentInSpace@pawb.social 3 points 1 week ago (1 children)

ios is bad but is android better

I was gonna say, this sounds familiar.

Really though, some times it’s by design. I remember back when you could jailbreak your iPhone (effectively). Those were the days…so much cool shit you could do on an iPhone back then.

One of the things you could do though was change your animation speed. You know, just how fast it would do those little swoops and sweeps and things like that when opening apps or transitioning or whatever. It was a little thing, but I appreciated being able to change it, a lot. I used to set it at 0 so everything was as snappy as possible. No animations, just pop pop pop. Like in Windows 7 when you turn off all animations and effects. I would experiment though sometimes with new iOS versions on other devices as well as my own when they came out. Don’t want to be left behind and be susceptible to security risks, right?

It didn’t take me long to catch on that they would, little by little, extend the animations times slightly as they got closer to a new major version number release. I noticed that when you would upgrade, they would adjust the animation speed again with the major release, but instead of slowing it down, put it back to normal. They basically made it so that when you finally upgraded to the new (slightly buggy) major version, you felt it ran better and were happy you did so. It was all a trick, and you were being manipulated. It didn’t run better, it just seemed that way because they slowed down the previous version’s animations. Now, I know how Apple thinks and works. It’s both to make sure you’re on the latest version they can get you on as well as try to keep you thinking they are always improving things and be happy you upgraded. But, it’s just a bit disappointing to realize that they’re manipulating you in little ways like that to keep you on-board.

Not the first time Google or phone manufacturers have taken some cues from Apple’s practices in this area. It seems like time and time again we see some people like Android users and Linux enthusiasts complaining about Apple’s practices only to be dismayed that Google or their favorite phone manufacturer starts practicing the very same thing. The fact of the matter is, Apple did ALL the research. They don’t care about all us nerds who see what’s going on. We’re the minority. The majority are happily manipulated in this way, unknowingly. Why wouldn’t they follow suit? Apple is WILDLY successful.

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