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[–] Backspacecentury@kbin.social 427 points 1 year ago (7 children)

Great, now do the Scientologist pricks that protected him for years and threatened his victims.

[–] Riccosuave@lemmy.world 59 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (3 children)

On another note if you are interested in the topic, I can't recommend Growing Up in Scientology enough on YouTube.

Aaron is an amazing educator, commentator, and satirist on the subject of Scientology. Beyond that he has one of the most genuine, yet charismatic personalities of any person on the platform. I can't say enough good things about him, his journey, and his work with both exposing as well as freeing people from Scientology's grip.

Growing Up in Scientology: https://youtube.com/@GrowingUpInScientology?si=7AqjhAIP4ptYDJfi

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[–] londos@lemmy.world 298 points 1 year ago (27 children)

By the time he gets out, he'll be That 70's Guy.

[–] angelsomething@lemmy.one 138 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Turns out red was right all along.

[–] merc@sh.itjust.works 127 points 1 year ago (24 children)

Is it just me or does 30 years to life seem longer than you would expect? I'm not trying to argue what he deserves or what the correct amount of time is for rape. I'm just saying that if I had to guess what kind of sentence someone would get for 2 counts of rape, I'd have guessed something like 15 years at most. It seems especially unusual given that he's rich, white, and presumably a first-time offender.

If the sentence is unusually long, would that mean an appeal is more likely to be successful?

[–] The_v@lemmy.world 132 points 1 year ago (2 children)

After the rapist Brock Turner was given a slap on the wrist, California passed mandatory sentencing for rape.

He was accused of 3 rapes but convicted of 2. He received the maximum sentencing for each.

His lawyers are likely going to fight the conviction constantly until the money runs dry.

My personal thought is the conviction is unlikely to be overturned but a sentence reduction is likely. So he got the maximum sentence. Danny will likely be behind bars for at least 6-10 years for his crimes.

[–] ShaggySnacks@lemmy.myserv.one 110 points 1 year ago (3 children)

You do mean Brock Allen Turner, who was a student at Standford and was convicted of rape from an incident on January 18, 2015?

I hate to be wrong on that we're talking about two different Brock Allen Turners.

[–] The_v@lemmy.world 81 points 1 year ago (1 children)

That's the right Brock Turner who was sentenced to 6 months and was released after 3 months. Judge Aaron Persky thought a longer sentence would unduly harm the rapist, Brock Allen Turner.

[–] Kalkaline@programming.dev 63 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Didn't convicted rapist Brock Allen Turner try to hide his identity by just using his middle name and going by Allen Turner?

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[–] Daisyifyoudo@lemmy.world 61 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

I think they're referring to THE RAPIST BROCK ALLEN TURNER who raped an unconscious girl in an alley. I heard he moved to Ohio and goes by his middle name. So THE RAPIST ALLEN TURNER

[–] CosmicTurtle@lemmy.world 26 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Didn't rapist Brock Turner change his name or something?

[–] Daisyifyoudo@lemmy.world 32 points 1 year ago

I think they're referring to THE RAPIST BROCK ALLEN TURNER who raped an unconscious girl in an alley. I heard he moved to Ohio and goes by his middle name. So THE RAPIST ALLEN TURNER

The rapist Allen Turner is the same person. Yes. Allen Turner is a rapist.

[–] merc@sh.itjust.works 22 points 1 year ago

California passed mandatory sentencing for rape.

I knew about Brock Turner, but I didn't know California passed new laws as a result. Do you mean mandatory minimum sentences? Or was the maximum raised too? Would 15 years have been illegal for Turner, but is legal for Masterson?

6-10 years for his crimes.

6-10 years is more what I would have expected given his fame and wealth. I wouldn't have been surprised at 15. But, 30 to life seems more like what I'd expect from a second-degree murder sentence for someone with a criminal history, not rape by a rich white Hollywood celebrity.

[–] Mr_Pap_Shmear@lemmy.world 89 points 1 year ago (2 children)

maybe they tried him as a black adult? you know how sometimes they try minors as adults

[–] Icaria@lemmy.world 30 points 1 year ago

Sentencing has never made much sense. Depends upon jurisdiction, how many charges prosecutors can tack on, how many you end up going to trial over, how many you get convicted over, and who is responsible for sentencing (in some places the jury sentence, in some the trial judge, in others sentencing is a separate proceeding with a separate judge).

One of the big factors here is that Masterson and his lawyers still deny everything. He didn't cut a deal, hasn't shown remorse since he hasn't admitted to any wrong-doing, and the judge chose to sentence consecutively. First trial was a mistrial, second trial got 2/3 convictions, and apparently they intend to appeal. So depending upon appeal, he is currently facing somewhere between being acquitted on appeal to facing life in prison. In a lot of cases like this, some sort of deal is cut on lesser charges or lesser sentencing in exchange for admitting guilt and not dragging this on through appeal, hence typically shorter sentences. Masterson/his lawyers are instead rolling d20s and the current outcome is a 1.

[–] clockwork_octopus@lemmy.world 20 points 1 year ago

It’s longer than I’d expect, but it’s what it should be, so it’s refreshing that a judge somewhere is taking rape seriously.

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[–] Coreidan@lemmy.world 88 points 1 year ago (8 children)

Wooops I guess he’s not rich enough to pay off judges and prosecutors. Sucks to suck.

[–] can@sh.itjust.works 66 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Scientology couldn't even save him?

I bet if it was Tom Cruise they would have done more.

[–] Vex_Detrause@lemmy.ca 29 points 1 year ago (2 children)

What if Scientology wanted this. So many what ifs when you include Scientology.

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[–] dangblingus@lemmy.world 75 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Man, I love That 70s Show, but so much fuckery and creepy shit happened during production. The irony being that this guy could have had any woman he wanted without assaulting them. He was the "cool funny" one on the show. Fucking gross piece of shit.

[–] June@lemm.ee 39 points 1 year ago (6 children)

Idk about any woman he wanted. There are plenty of people who were never attracted to him, and he may be dysfunctional in a way that draws him to those people.

No one can ever have anyone they want. There will always be someone that says no, and if you don’t have the maturity to accept that and let go of your sense of entitlement you might wind up turning into a predator like Masterson.

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[–] elevenfingerfrk@lemm.ee 27 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Rape is about power. Rapists aren’t interested in anyone who wants to give it to them consensually. They want to feel that they are really hurting someone, really destroying their humanity. If it doesn’t demean and permanently fuck up their victim then they want no part in it.

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[–] Ulrich_the_Old@lemmy.ca 63 points 1 year ago (7 children)
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[–] reverendsteveii@lemm.ee 61 points 1 year ago (4 children)

Just for curiosity's sake, what did he do to deserve 25 1/2 years before he can be eligible for parole that convicted rapist Brock Allen Turner didn't do when he raped an unconscious woman behind a dumpster? They were both convicted in California. Why did Turner, who has been going by Allen Turner and was last seen in the Dayton, OH area, do differently such that his custodial sentence was for 6 months, roughly 2% of the custodial time that Masterson will serve?

Let me be clear that my issue here isn't that Masterson was penalized too much. He took two women's lives and he should spend the rest of his in prison for it. It's just that I see two rapists, one was righteously destroyed by the justice system and the other whose court proceedings essentially made it seem like no one wanted to punish him at all but they very reluctantly felt like they had to.

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[–] MargotRobbie@lemmy.world 58 points 1 year ago

He finally got what he deserved. Let's just hope that he can't hurt anyone ever again.

[–] crypticthree@lemmy.world 54 points 1 year ago
[–] NegativeLookBehind@kbin.social 52 points 1 year ago

Hello ~~Wisconsin~~ Incarceration!

[–] DeathWearsANecktie@lemm.ee 36 points 1 year ago

I believe the song "incurably innocent" by At The Drive-In is about this piece of shit. He sexually assaulted Cedric's wife.

Bastard is better behind bars.

[–] Son_of_dad@lemmy.world 35 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Has Ashton said anything new yet? The guy built a reputation for defending victims of abuse, but when they're his buddy Danny's victims he suddenly has no comment and continued to hang out with him until he was jailed. Every person that was arrested with the help of Ashton Kutcher was automatically called guilty by him without trial, but when his friend rapes people he's all "I just can't know". I lost all my respect for him for refusing to ditch an obvious rapist

[–] NewNewAccount@lemmy.world 70 points 1 year ago (6 children)

I mean, does it really matter? I don’t follow the situation, but his lack of opinion on this matter can be a blight on his reputation but it doesn’t change what he did for other victims.

Besides, who cares about a celebrity’s opinion anyway?

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[–] ohlaph@lemmy.world 32 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I feel like the church 9f scientology should be held accountable here as well as they tried to hush the women.

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[–] Dagwood222@lemm.ee 24 points 1 year ago (5 children)

I feel sorry for his castmates. I'm sure they were counting on decades of reruns and residual checks.

[–] stevedidWHAT@lemmy.world 22 points 1 year ago

I mean it sucks that it’s a missed money opportunity, (who wouldn’t love to coast on prior work they’ve done?) but a lot of the actors and actresses turned out just fine monetarily speaking idk. They’ll be alright.

I really only feel sorry for the people he raped and the people who have to handle these types of cases day in and day out.

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[–] orangeNgreen@lemmy.world 21 points 1 year ago

Can’t Hyde from that.

[–] NocturnalMorning@lemmy.world 19 points 1 year ago (1 children)

What's the difference between this and what Trump did? I'm curious why this one gets prison time, but Trump didn't. If it was two decades ago when this happened, I would habe thought it was past the statue of limitations.

[–] hypelightfly@kbin.social 32 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (3 children)

Criminal vs civil trial due to the statute of limitations. Trump could not be criminally charged as the crime happened too long ago. The law limiting the time was changed in 2006 but that can't be retroactively applied.

The problem is that many alleged victims of sexual assault, like Carroll, cannot avail themselves of the criminal justice system. At the time when Carroll alleges Trump raped her, the statute of limitations for rape in the state of New York was five years. In 2006, New York changed the law and abolished the statute of limitations for certain types of assault, but that change does not apply retroactively to crimes committed before 2006.

https://www.nbcnews.com/think/opinion/e-jean-carroll-sued-trump-defamation-last-resort-blame-statute-ncna1077321

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