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[–] RunningInRVA@lemmy.world 85 points 1 month ago (3 children)

What a class act. It’s too bad the door swung so far in the other direction after he left.

[–] hate2bme@lemmy.world 55 points 1 month ago (4 children)

I voted for him but hate how he talked shit about the Patriot act overstepping then extended it and took away even more of our rights.

[–] RunningInRVA@lemmy.world 91 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Congress extended it. Obama simply didn’t veto it. Perhaps that makes him complicit but it sailed through the Senate in a 67-32 vote which is likely to never happen ever again and a veto would only get overridden by Congress, which makes a President appear weak.

[–] Peppycito@sh.itjust.works 15 points 1 month ago (1 children)

I wish a politician 'told us how it is' by relaying to us how it actually is. Like, the power structure and the way shit gets accomplished by government. We have no clue. People running for office have a jist of a clue. Those in power are burdened by the system. I wish we knew more about the system.

[–] skulblaka@sh.itjust.works 1 points 1 month ago (1 children)

the way shit gets accomplished by government

Well, largely, it doesn't. And the reason for that is because few people in the US government right now know how to operate a government.

[–] phdepressed@sh.itjust.works 2 points 1 month ago

Many in the government in fact don't want the government to operate.

[–] Semi_Hemi_Demigod@lemmy.world 1 points 1 month ago

Politics is the art of the possible.

Except that what's possible is waaaaaaaay less than you think.

[–] Whopraysforthedevil@midwest.social -5 points 1 month ago (2 children)

Also, not a fan of him ordering the extra judicial killing of American citizens.

[–] InverseParallax@lemmy.world 1 points 1 month ago

I'm fine with it, but only because those specific Americans were assholes and weren't in a place they could be taken for trial.

I wouldn't mind a trial in absentia, but I also understand time was a concern.

Before you say 'oh yeah, what about others in the future!?!?', everyone got that pissed over a few that pretty clearly deserved it, I'm not too worried about a potus drone striking random people at Walmart just yet.

[–] the_crotch@sh.itjust.works -2 points 1 month ago (2 children)

The downvoters apparently are fans of that

It happens 🤷

[–] ChillPenguin@lemmy.world 29 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Yeah, the racists were pretty pissed about the whole... Having a black president thing.

[–] DragonTypeWyvern@midwest.social 2 points 1 month ago (1 children)

People are really sleeping on voting Harris just to make racists mad

Some people need a smaller goal they can relate to

[–] barsquid@lemmy.world 1 points 1 month ago

Make racists mald again, that's not a bad idea.

[–] DancingBear@midwest.social 15 points 1 month ago (1 children)

I voted for him both times, he’s a really good speaker. Unfortunately, he’s a neoliberal corporate democrat just like all the others.

[–] DragonTypeWyvern@midwest.social 2 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Eh, just pushing for the ACA makes him generic liberal, not neo.

[–] DancingBear@midwest.social 1 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

ACA is the republican neoliberal healthcare plan yo

Or at least it was lol, once Obama got it passed and the republicans started literally speaking out against their own plan

A similar thing happened to Biden, where he embraced the republican immigration plan but then the republicans changed their mind and voted against their own plan lol

[–] Surp@lemmy.world 23 points 1 month ago (1 children)
[–] tootoughtoremember@lemmy.world 3 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

I miss sanity in politics.

Was shit perfect? Fuck no, but there was comfort in appearance of civilized debate. You could disagree with a politician, family member, or even stranger without calling their entire world view into question. I can remember when we agreed on the facts, and just disagreed on whose solution was best to fix the problem.

I'm too old for this shit.