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[–] WtfEvenIsExistence@lemmy.ca 103 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

"Those who make peaceful revolution impossible will make violent revolution inevitable."

-John F. Kennedy

[–] jballs@sh.itjust.works 14 points 1 year ago (1 children)

"Those who make winning honest elections impossible will make gerrymandering inevitable."

-Republicans, probably

[–] sudo@lemmy.today 13 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

"those who aren't rich, old, and white can get fucked"

-republicans, definitely

[–] mjhelto@lemm.ee 6 points 1 year ago (1 children)

::turkey noises::

  • Mitch McConnell
[–] greenfish@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago

Friend you made me snort loudly and disturb my cat

[–] Rapidcreek@reddthat.com 67 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Republicans, party platform of thwarting the rule of the people and democracy. And they'll keep on doing it until you vote them all out of office.

[–] Hairyblue@kbin.social 26 points 1 year ago (1 children)

It is this. They know they don't have ideas and policies that people want, so they can't win fair elections. So they don't want democracy anymore. They want to rule us and force their views on us.

Stop voting for Republicans, they don't believe in our democracy.

[–] norske@lemmynsfw.com 22 points 1 year ago (1 children)

It’s kinda worse than that though. They feel it’s their moral imperative to force their ideologies on us. That they are fighting some holy war against evil. They have to win by any means necessary. The most ardent believers think that the country is already evil and can only be washed clean with the blood of…. I guess anyone who doesn’t share their views. Right wing extremism is all over the world, not just the states. And it’s damned scary times right now.

[–] kgbbot@lemmy.ca 9 points 1 year ago (2 children)

So kinda like Sharia law but based on bullshit Republican ideas instead of a religion. Also Republicans would lose their everliving minds if it was suggested they live under Sharia law.

[–] orclev@lemmy.world 9 points 1 year ago

Well most of them base their ideas on their particularly twisted version of Christianity, so pretty much exactly like Sharia law. Some of them don't even hide it and straight up admit they want Christian flavored Sharia law. Republican voters seem to be a pretty even mix of militant authoritarian Christians and those that don't actually care about religion but find the ones that do to be useful puppets so they play along. Nearly all the politicians just talk about Christianity because it plays well with their supporters, although there's a few that are legitimate believers and those are the truly frightening ones.

[–] CryptoRoberto@sh.itjust.works 2 points 1 year ago

Y'allqueda is a drive to be reconned with. Original klandma is out there calling for civil war two electric boogaloo. At this point I just wish they'd been more successful in organizing a large scale insurrection on Jan 6 so we could have a nice pile of bodies.

[–] agent_flounder@lemmy.one 12 points 1 year ago

Which is why they work so hard to make that impossible.

[–] Fredselfish@lemmy.world 36 points 1 year ago (9 children)

I hope not eventually thier base will die out. Majority of young voters will be left leaning. Sorry GOP boomers are dying and so will your party.

[–] WagesOf@artemis.camp 14 points 1 year ago

We need to find a way to shutdown the outrage stroking right wing indoctrination media complex first.

If you have no prospects and no education to know how to separate reality from hate mongering lies it's pretty easy for an alternate reality talking head to convince you that the only reason you don't have a job, house and wife is because someone named Carlos was allowed past the border to pick cucumbers.

[–] Moobythegoldensock@lemm.ee 7 points 1 year ago

Their base is already dying out. They wouldn’t need to try so hard to rig Wisconsin’s election if they already had a majority. What we’re seeing is a dying party trying to claw its way back to relevance.

[–] remus989@sh.itjust.works 6 points 1 year ago

I've heard this for literal decades. It's clearly not something we can bank on.

[–] ares35@kbin.social 5 points 1 year ago

a lot of younger cheddarheads have been raised in the maga ways, though. it might be the case overall, but not as defined here.

[–] mjhelto@lemm.ee 5 points 1 year ago (1 children)

It's why all this has been accelerating to the point we are at now, where they aren't even trying to hide it, now. They have their voters so wound up and chomping for war against anyone they perceive to be a threat to rolling back to when white males had all the power and privilege.

It's why boomers won't leave the workforce, and Congress, even when they are being led around like a spin-off of *Weekend at Bernie's." Soon as they retire or step down, the youngsters come in undo all the lies and bullshit they were too dumb and/or gullible to question. The was just an employee recognition event where I work, which is in higher ed, and there was someone there who had over 55 years at the university. Fucking wild. I can't wait to retire and stop doing this money-for-time (and during the prime of my life) so some rich asshole can make more money in an hour than I make all year!

[–] Fredselfish@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago

Yeah my company keeps hiring guys with 40 to 50 years experience and I am like WTF retire already.

[–] TeenieBopper@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago

I'm not terribly hopeful. I'm an older millennial. As I've gotten older, I've watched my friends grow up, get jobs, have kids, move to the suburbs, etc. They got a little bit of what's theirs (obviously not enough, but still) and they want to protect it. They vote to protect their investment in their house and to keep their school district good. They're nowhere near fascist like the current crop of republican politicians, but they're scared and that leads them to voting more small c conservatively. You and I both know that republican policies are trash and that the values espoused in theory by the democratic party are better for them. But they finally made it. They're prizing stability or better, because change is scary.

Will the super racist republican party base die out? Maybe. Probably. But they're just going to be replaced by center right democrats. Sure, that's better, but not so much better that it'll fix all the problems we have. Maybe the gen-Zers can do something about it, but I'm afraid their political power will be dwarfed by the sheer size of the Millennial generation.

[–] CaptainPedantic@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago

There are tons of super right wing young people. I mean all the alt right "personalities" are probably under 40. Lots of my coworkers, for example, are at best die-hard Republicans, and most of them are under 35.

They're in no danger of dying out. And even if they actually are, we should rely on that to reduce the influence of the Republican party.

States are removing even the smallest traces of leftism from public schools and as those fail (by design) they're hoping families will opt into private schools that are traditionally parochial and thus indoctrinate children even harder.

So, if Protasiewicz’s court also is not allowed to strike down these gerrymanders, the people of Wisconsin will be left with no lawful recourse whatsoever against permanent Republican control of their state legislature.

Emphasis mine.

Those Republican Wisconsin state legislators are gonna find out what that means if they keep unabashedly fucking around like this.

[–] YurkshireLad@lemmy.ca 27 points 1 year ago (1 children)

At some point the republicans may have to change their name. I mean, if the republic no longer exists…. Authoriticans? Autocritans? Fascicans?

I jest, I jest.

[–] PalmTreeIsBestTree@lemmy.world 24 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Nationalists Christians aka: NatCs

[–] autotldr@lemmings.world 12 points 1 year ago

This is the best summary I could come up with:


The Wisconsin GOP’s ostensible reason for impeaching Protasiewicz is that, as a candidate for her current office, the justice campaigned against the state’s gerrymandered maps — calling them “rigged.” Republicans claim this means she impermissibly prejudged the Clarke case and must recuse from it.

But there is a US Supreme Court case — Republican Party of Minnesota v. White (2002) —that is almost directly on point here, holding that candidates for judicial office have a First Amendment right to publicly state their positions on contentious legal issues while they are campaigning for election.

Justice Antonin Scalia’s majority opinion in Republican Party persuasively lays out why it makes no sense to strip judicial candidates of their free speech rights in the midst of an election campaign.

The Court’s decision in Republican Party should prohibit the Wisconsin GOP from impeaching Protasiewicz because she expressed a view on a contentious legal issue while she was a candidate for judicial office.

Last December, during oral arguments in Moore v. Harper, Alito asked whether “it furthers democracy to transfer the political controversy about districting from the legislature to elected supreme courts where the candidates are permitted by state law to campaign on the issue of districting?” So Alito seemed to suggest that it would be improper for a state supreme court to rule in a gerrymandering case if its members are even allowed to campaign on this issue.

So, if Protasiewicz’s court also is not allowed to strike down these gerrymanders, the people of Wisconsin will be left with no lawful recourse whatsoever against permanent Republican control of their state legislature.


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[–] ares35@kbin.social 2 points 1 year ago

it already feels like 'forever'.