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[–] WatDabney@sopuli.xyz 35 points 1 month ago

Tyrants recognized centuries ago that the surest way to guarantee the enthusiasm and loyalty of their mercenary thugs was to let them loot their victims.

And nothing really has changed since then.

[–] Cris_Color@lemmy.world 10 points 1 month ago (1 children)

What exactly happens with things taken through civil forfeiture...? Like... Who gets it? Is it sold/auctioned? Who gets the money...?

[–] SolarTapestryofNoise@lemmy.world 17 points 1 month ago (1 children)

The police department gets it. If you want your money back it's the seized money vs the state in a court, not you personally vs the state, the money itself vs the state.

[–] Cris_Color@lemmy.world 8 points 1 month ago (5 children)

But like... What does the department do with it? Do they just give it to indevual cops? If it's money does it become part of their budget?

Also, the case is "your money" vs " the state"? How the fuck does that work? This shit is so confusing 😅

[–] CosmicTurtle0@lemmy.dbzer0.com 12 points 1 month ago (2 children)
[–] Cris_Color@lemmy.world 2 points 1 month ago

Thank you!!

[–] Dasus@lemmy.world 1 points 1 month ago

John aged a bit like Obama.

Hope I do as well.

[–] Nastybutler@lemmy.world 11 points 1 month ago (2 children)

These laws, like so many, were initially put into place to punish drug dealers. But like most laws geared towards the War on Drugs™ the cops realized they could use it against anyone and gleefully have ever since. It's not just money, they'll seize a person's home even if the homeowner had no idea their child or guest had drugs there.

[–] Mirshe@lemmy.world 1 points 1 month ago

Yup, in most states, it's anything the money COULD have been used on, and it's on you to prove the money was not used towards that item. You paid for new brakes on your car while gainfully employed, but you were also selling weed? Some part of that money WAS from drug sales - your car is now ours.

[–] SolarTapestryofNoise@lemmy.world 6 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Goes into the budget is my understanding. It becomes departmental funds.

Very very poorly for the individual because your intent cannot be factored into the case. The money itself has to be proven innocent from criminal activity. It's essentially designed to be as hard as possible for the individual to get their money back. I am not a lawyer and I am pulling this from memory so i could be wildly off base with this.

[–] hibsen@lemmy.world 4 points 1 month ago

If Wikipedia is accurate, it varies a bit by state, but it seems like your memory is accurate for many of them.

[–] Maggoty@lemmy.world 1 points 1 month ago

Yeah it goes towards pay, sports cars, and toys.

[–] Linkerbaan@lemmy.world 4 points 1 month ago

Unionized gang

[–] Feathercrown@lemmy.world 2 points 1 month ago

Are we finally ready to introduce this conversation to the larger political stage?

[–] HubertManne@moist.catsweat.com 1 points 1 month ago

How much of this is drug related to. The drug laws do no one any good.