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[–] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 65 points 2 months ago (3 children)

Civility is a tool to do your enemy's job for them.

[–] Diva@lemmy.ml 24 points 2 months ago (1 children)

"Hello I would like to mentally police myself for free so that people who want me dead might think I'm one of the good ones"

[–] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 9 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

Legitimately had someone compare defacing a Trump sign to firebombing an Elementary School, saying "we are better than them" lmao

[–] Civility@hexbear.net 6 points 2 months ago (1 children)
[–] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 5 points 2 months ago

Oh god oh fuck

[–] PolandIsAStateOfMind@lemmy.ml 5 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

@Civility@hexbear.net dude they are slandering you again!

[–] zeephirus@lemmy.world 46 points 2 months ago (1 children)

no no you dont understand. What I mean is YOUR violence has no place in politics. THUD.

[–] Telodzrum@lemmy.world 12 points 2 months ago

“When I am weaker than you, I ask you for freedom because that is according to your principles; when I am stronger than you, I take away your freedom because that is according to my principles.”

[–] UltraGiGaGigantic@lemmy.ml 34 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

Poverty is violence. Poverty is a policy choice.

[–] lugal@sopuli.xyz 30 points 2 months ago

Violence against the ruling class has no place in politics

[–] NaevaTheRat@vegantheoryclub.org 16 points 2 months ago

I think sometimes when I try to point out that political violence underpins much of society people hear "violence is good actually".

It's frustrating because what I'm trying to point out is actually the opposite. Prostrating yourself lets other people use violence with no checks.

[–] 100_kg_90_de_belin@feddit.it 12 points 2 months ago (1 children)

We have no compassion and we ask no compassion from you. When our turn comes, we shall not make excuses for the terror. (Karl Marx)

[–] Civility@hexbear.net 4 points 2 months ago
[–] Linkerbaan@lemmy.world 11 points 2 months ago (1 children)
[–] WaxedWookie@lemmy.world 16 points 2 months ago (1 children)

They certainly made the GOP start caring about gun control if nothing else... They were also damn good with message discipline, and (unless I'm mistaken), did some great mutual aid.

[–] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 3 points 2 months ago

They were also Marxist-Leninists and supportive of AES.

[–] SoylentBlake@lemm.ee 9 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

Politics is nothing but coordinated violence, in that it is nothing but coercion of people against their own interests. If you're an interested party, than youre adding to the coercion of others. If you stay out of it, then it's not political to you is it?

Politics:violence

Politics:economics

Economics:violence

Try telling people whose rent has doubled or tripled within a decade that economics isn't violence. You'll experience some carnal violence in return, I'm sure.

Politics = violence; it's the NC-17 version, violence all grown up and sophisticated. Sanitized for TV, in it for the sound bites. In fact, I'd say at least half of it is theatre alone. It's even been packaged up for the people to play along from home. The evolution of violence, fun for the whole family. I mean, what else would we talk about come holidays? HELPING each other?!?

[–] Kusimulkku@lemm.ee 6 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

I just think people don't like it when their side's politicians and advocates are getting murdered.

[–] trolololol@lemmy.world 4 points 2 months ago (1 children)

At this point monopoly of violence by the state would be an improvement

Also sounds like America's favorite hobby is back: shooting presidents.

Was there any previous attempts of murder without shooting? And if anyone has statistics of assassinations in other countries by guns vs something else I'd be curious to see. Except Fidel, that's going to take too long and skew the numbers 🤣🤣🤣

[–] GarbageShootAlt2@lemmy.ml 6 points 2 months ago (1 children)

I don't think the new assassination fad is especially productive, but a complete state monopoly on violence would definitely not be an improvement. Trump can take a few bullets, it doesn't matter.

[–] trolololol@lemmy.world 1 points 2 months ago

I was more referring to what happens when someone gets doxxed or school violence or civilians hating immigrants.

[–] Sam_Bass@lemmy.world 2 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Actually politics has no place in violence.

[–] Visstix@lemmy.world -1 points 2 months ago (1 children)

So you're saying those examples should be part of politics?

[–] GarbageShootAlt2@lemmy.ml 7 points 2 months ago (1 children)

I believe the idea is that the person saying that is clearly a hypocrite who has no grounds for their decrying of violence when they support so much of it, and possibly that retaliatory violence in self-defense is therefore justified.

[–] Visstix@lemmy.world 1 points 2 months ago

Well that's a lot more information than the first line.