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Just reposting this excellent point from lemmygrad

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[–] VILenin@hexbear.net 52 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (3 children)

Edit: A revolution is not a dinner party, or writing an essay, or painting a picture, or doing embroidery; it cannot be so refined, so leisurely and gentle, so temperate, kind, courteous, restrained and magnanimous. A revolution is an insurrection, an act of violence by which one class overthrows another.

We now have literal “Soviets were godless barbarians” arguments. The revolution is never perfect enough, is it? Wish there was a time machine to send people back to moralize about doing what needs to be done and Christian moral goodness to the leaders of a nascent revolution being ruthlessly attacked on all sides. I’m going to reserve my tears for the thousands of dead Jews and millions of starving and dying peasants.

Maybe we can have a struggle session over dead teenage Nazis from WWII next time.

[–] Egon@hexbear.net 31 points 1 year ago (24 children)

I don't like this. While it was probably necesarry to kill the royal family to avoid a counter-revolution or a government-in-exile, that does not mean we should make death, murder or the fear of those about to be murdered into something to laugh at.
Yes the Tzar was a murderous bastard encouraging pogroms and generally just a guy who got off easy, this photo doesn't really convey that to me. It seems like it's just laughing at something awful that happened to a family. Did the family deserve it? Yes. That doesn't mean we should make the act into something funny. Violence is necessary, but it shouldn't be glorified.
I don't think it's a black & white thing, but this image crosses my line anyway. Feels wrong.

I also don't like it, mostly because i fuckin hate wojak and every one of these images is incredibly ugly.

[–] zerograd@hexbear.net 10 points 1 year ago (1 children)

It is a morbid image for sure but not more than what actually happens during a revolution.

[–] Egon@hexbear.net 18 points 1 year ago (1 children)

The difference is that we are here depicting actual people that was in this actual situation as crying wojaks and the guy who shot them as the yes-chad. It's pretty clear the intent is to ridicule and glorify.

[–] zerograd@hexbear.net 11 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Yes I wouldn't have made or posted that image and I feel bad looking at it. Yet I also feel the same way looking at any (justified) combat or gore footage whatsoever and I ask myself where to draw the line. I'd be OK with pulling the trigger but I wouldn't have made a meme about it. Reading this out loud makes me sound like a hypocrite however. Where do we draw the line because I don't really know. I wish we could just turn them into cute animals instead like comrade Sonic did.

[–] Egon@hexbear.net 16 points 1 year ago (5 children)

I think stuff like pit is fine because 1. It's a Nazi and 2. It's not a real person. I think barbara-pit is fine because it was a bunch of partisans getting retribution during wartime. They had no time or resources for a fair trial and they knew the people they executed anyway, so the evidence was pretty clear.

I think the reason that image crosses my line is because it depicts a traumatic event that happened to actual people, and some of those people didn't really have the agency to do anything else. I'm not sad the Romanovs are dead, and I think the overthrow and owning of a doofus failson named Nicky is something that should be celebrated, but I just don't think that justifies mocking people in their last moments. Had things been different then some of them might've gotten the Puyi treatment, it's sad that that wasn't possible. I'm not losing any sleep over it - they are caviar as their people were starving and dying at the front - but that doesn't mean I think it should be turned into an object of ridicule.

It reeks of aesthetic communism. Like some chuds support the USSR because they think the holodomor was real and they think it was a good thing. They just like cool mosin nagant, human wave death machine, lol kill people. That's what that image reeks of.

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[–] Tankiedesantski@hexbear.net 24 points 1 year ago

The Russian Civil War ended when the Bolsheviks depicted the Whites as the cringe wojak and themselves as the Chad wojak.

[–] Zuzak@hexbear.net 21 points 1 year ago (2 children)

At first I wasn't going to upvote but I have to give props for kicking off a struggle session over the Romanovs lenin-laugh

[–] Egon@hexbear.net 14 points 1 year ago

Would you look at the time? what-time-is-it

[–] VILenin@hexbear.net 14 points 1 year ago (3 children)

Tune in next week for the Hexbear pity parade for veterans

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[–] forcequit@hexbear.net 49 points 1 year ago (3 children)
[–] Nationalgoatism@hexbear.net 25 points 1 year ago

Una mensaje muy Bien trans-gun

[–] daisy@hexbear.net 15 points 1 year ago (1 children)

What does this translate to?

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[–] ReadFanon@hexbear.net 34 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

People always go on about Soviet art and Soviet architecture but one aspect of Soviet innovation that gets constantly overlooked is Soviet interior design, with Yakov Yurovsky being the progenitor of what I'd call Soviet deconstructivist interior design.

Truly Yurovsky is an unsung pioneer of this interior design movement.

[–] ReadFanon@hexbear.net 30 points 1 year ago

While we're doing Ipatiev House memes, here's this one:

(It's much funnier if you know what King George V looks like)

[–] Findom_DeLuise@hexbear.net 27 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[–] Nationalgoatism@hexbear.net 24 points 1 year ago

Did not know we had this emote lmao

[–] Tofu_Lewis@hexbear.net 27 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

You tankies want to give us real leftists bad drywall? No wonder communism has never worked

[–] flan@hexbear.net 21 points 1 year ago (40 children)
[–] Nationalgoatism@hexbear.net 34 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

It's the wall in the basement where the Romanovs were shot.

spoilerThe pun being basically transphobes get the wall

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