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[–] fubo@lemmy.world 32 points 1 year ago

On the other hand, anyone who tells you, "I always tell the truth," is probably lying.

[–] dudinax@programming.dev 14 points 1 year ago (1 children)

"I don't always lie." wink

[–] Tylerdurdon@lemmy.world 0 points 1 year ago

"I lie a lot" would also work.

[–] regalia@literature.cafe 14 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[–] Xylight@lemmy.xylight.dev 8 points 1 year ago (2 children)
[–] JohnDClay@sh.itjust.works 8 points 1 year ago (3 children)

A fun detail is that all the franken cubes fry and die after hearing the paradox, but Wheatley is still fine.

[–] Xylight@lemmy.xylight.dev 6 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Really? I didn't notice that.

[–] JohnDClay@sh.itjust.works 5 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I didn't either till someone mentioned it in a speed running video

[–] JustARegularNerd@aussie.zone 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Was that Msushi? I think I heard that same fact from him.

[–] JohnDClay@sh.itjust.works 2 points 1 year ago

I think so. I've been watching a lot of his videos recently, so that's make sense.

[–] Weslee@lemmy.world 5 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

I always wondered why glados is fine, just saying because she's a potatoe doesn't sit with me because she recognised the paradox herself, so she must know what a paradox is and understand why it's dangerous for ai, even in potatoe form

[–] JohnDClay@sh.itjust.works 5 points 1 year ago

I think she was intelligent enough to temporarily shut down the portions of her brain that would be effected. At least that was my take.

[–] JustARegularNerd@aussie.zone 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I always saw it as her just saying in her mind, "This. Statement. Is. False." thus just being some four individual one word sentences.

[–] Weslee@lemmy.world 6 points 1 year ago

That is plausible, but she saw the sign and read the paradoxes on the signboard - surely just seeing the paradoxes written on the sign would have caught her off guard. I guess it doesn't matter, they just wanted to do a funny moment and it was still good

[–] rmuk@feddit.uk 3 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Yeah, the implication being that in a typical Sledgehammers-To-Crack-Nuts solution to a nonexistent problem, Aperture put full-blown, totally sentient AIs in their cubes/turrets that were at least as intelligent as Wheatley.

Also I only just noticed that Bagley from Watch Dogs is very, very similar to Wheatley.

[–] regalia@literature.cafe 3 points 1 year ago

but then it wouldn't be false

[–] scarabic@lemmy.world 10 points 1 year ago

Except for this statement, I always lie.

[–] davidgro@lemmy.world 7 points 1 year ago (1 children)

"Starting at the moment this statement ends, I will always lie."

[–] Kolanaki@yiffit.net 8 points 1 year ago (1 children)

How do I know that wasn't a lie and that you will occasionally still be telling the truth?

[–] davidgro@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

You'd just have to trust me.

[–] open_world@lemmy.world 6 points 1 year ago

i always lie

I'm a compulsive liar.

[–] Why9@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago

"Me? I'm dishonest, and a dishonest man you can always trust to be dishonest. Honestly. It's the honest ones you want to watch out for, because you can never predict when they're going to do something incredibly... stupid."

[–] derekabutton@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago

Not quite. You missed the fact that it doesn't need to be the entire statement. "I always lie when I say that the sky is green"

[–] Hamartiogonic@sopuli.xyz 4 points 1 year ago

Couldn’t you just say that you’re a politician? IMO that would be close enough.

[–] ladicius@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago

Technically you can't always lie ("always" is the key here) so the statement can't be true. Besides that you can say the words in that specific order, no problem.

[–] KLISHDFSDF@lemmy.ml 2 points 1 year ago

I'm a habitual liar. close enough 🤷‍♂️

[–] nieceandtows@programming.dev 1 points 1 year ago

I don’t think that’s a problem because it’s impossible to ‘always’ lie and not be noticed. I don’t even know it’s possible to always lie. May be most of the time, but then you can say ‘i lie most of the time’ without any issues

[–] escapesamsara 1 points 1 year ago

Oh hey, you finally figured out the two guards riddle, congrats.