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I was watching "...why Skyrim?" by Razbuten on sloptube this aft and it's so weird that it finally took Starfield for people to realise. Like Fallout 76 wasn't enough, only now are negative things people were first saying about Skyrim in 2012 finally bleeding into mainstream consciousness. It's so wild, like wow they ruined the magic system? The game has worse writing than a PS1 era Mega Man X game??? Skyrim is just shitty Game of Thrones?? Welcome to thirteen years ago!!

Bethesda hasn't made a really good game since 2002, but it'll probably be years before that realisation sinks in.

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[–] GeorgeZBush@hexbear.net 15 points 3 months ago (5 children)

It's not great but walking around a town at night while Streets of Whiterun plays is comfy

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[–] laziestflagellant@hexbear.net 15 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (1 children)

Personally I've found that if you just install the unofficial patch, 5 of the unofficial patch-patches, 30 bug fixes, 300 model fixes, 8 NPC AI overhauls, 3 perk tree mods with their cross compatibility patches, 10 magic rebalancing mods, your economy mod of choice, all of Jayserpa quest extension mods, DYNDOLOD and all its requisite resources and tools, the mod that let's you adopt more than 2 kids, one of the three rival lighting mods, an autopatching framework, and at least one mod that nerfs Draugr deathlord health, then Skyrim becomes a pretty passible RPG.

Plus there's plenty of optional mods you can install!

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[–] ZoomeristLeninist@hexbear.net 15 points 3 months ago (2 children)

i can somewhat agree. skyrim wasn’t a great game, but i had a lot of fun playing it. that being said, 95% of the time i spent playing it was with intense modding. without mods i dont think it has much replay value, or even play value. but mods can make the magic system better, make combat more challenging, make skill trees more complex, etc.

but the plot sucks, the lore is lackluster compared to every other TES game, they took out p much all RPG mechanics, combat is mind-numbing, characters are flat (i want a mage with dementia to tell me she wants a bow that smells like yams only to say never mind when i bring it to her). it is objectively a worse game compared to morrowind by a long shot, but morrowind was a masterpiece. skyrim is fun and if you have 100 mods can even be a good game

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[–] GalaxyBrain@hexbear.net 15 points 3 months ago (6 children)
[–] magi@hexbear.net 14 points 3 months ago (2 children)

sweeping statements

leo-point

I knew there would be one

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[–] Cowbee@hexbear.net 14 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (10 children)

Time is usually a clarifying lens. Skyrim has always been hard-carried by mods, to the point that my prediction has been that Starfield will be entirely saved by mods due to having a better platform for modding than even Skyrim, assuming people don't give up on it entirely.

Seeing such a tame take become this hot though is unfortunate, I thought we had advanced beyond Skyrim.

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[–] FearsomeJoeandmac@hexbear.net 14 points 3 months ago (11 children)

checks if 2002 was when morrowind was released Christ morrowind fanboys on this site are insufferable (why are there so many?)

I loved oblivion, I loved Skyrim and I loved fallout 3 Fallout 4 and 76 weren’t that great, and starfield was better than those two but still not up to snuff.

A few video essays on YouTube do not the consensus make. You can crap your pants in nostalgia all you want boomers, most people preferred oblivion and Skyrim to morrowind.

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[–] imogen_underscore@hexbear.net 13 points 3 months ago

it has a place in my heart like the star wars prequels where I know it's really bad but kinda love it anyway and revisit from time to time for kicks and to explore what makes it interesting

[–] CantaloupeAss@hexbear.net 13 points 3 months ago (10 children)

I have dumped so many hours into Morrowind recently

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[–] StalinStan@hexbear.net 13 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (3 children)

It would be cool if any build other than stealth Archer worked good.

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[–] chickentendrils@hexbear.net 13 points 3 months ago (4 children)

As a big fan of the first two Fallouts and Daggerfall/Morrowind growing up, I do still like Oblivion. It's the right amount of jank and entertaining, with the bizarre voice action, the Dark Brotherhood quest line. Never played the main quest. Fallout 3 less so but still passable.

Skyrim was trash though, I did play the day 0 build and early patches only but I found a game-breaking combo of some sort early on and just ran thru the main quest to see what it was about since I never bothered with oblivion. I was pretty close to finished, but one of the last quests having a totally deflated final showdown between two factions where a dozen guys showed up and hit each other with poles in a courtyard just made me do the other stuff but none of it really landed for me. SO MANY RUINS.

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[–] BlueMagaChud@hexbear.net 13 points 3 months ago (1 children)

It's not great, but mods fix it into something worth playing. Recently, in Beyond Reach, I had Karl Marx pay me 15 gold for busking for him and three sex workers

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[–] callouscomic@lemm.ee 12 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (1 children)

Some of you all really need to worry less about what other people enjoy. Yeah I see the usual comments line why bother trying to convince others. Why is there ant need to convince others? Why do some gamers treat this crap like proselytizing some religion?

I also think some people have an inability to just shut off their criticism and have some damn fun.

I agree Skyrim had issues and flaws. Most games do. I was pissed at how flawed it was on PS3 origonally and how long I had to wait for patches just to ginish my game. But it'salso still got tons of great varying gameplay. It's a great sandbox. There's lots of good dungeons and quests.

People also love Witcher and that game is garbage to me. Slow, boring gameplay. I don't get the appeal, but you do you. Some people now think Cyberpunk is the greatest RPG ever, yet it was pure garbage at release.

This thread is weird. So much weird hate for something specific.

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[–] Red_sun_in_the_sky@hexbear.net 11 points 3 months ago

I really don't fucking care. When I originally torrented it and played this I burned through bunch of story. It seemed fun but tedious. I have never used or played any mods. I still only play generic.

When I played it originally I just wanted to cheat and fuck around. I just gave skill points to whatever magic thing and just did the magic school missions. With some of the magic it just becomes dragon ball z.

After a while I stopped playing. I haven't played in like a long time. I'd rather play saints row 4. I guess.

I'm more of a shitty old shooters person.

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