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    [–] MonkderDritte@feddit.de 176 points 4 months ago (29 children)

    SIGTERM is the graceful way tho? It nicely asks programs to please close and cleanup. Unlike SIGKILL, which bombs the shop and creates orphans.

    [–] SpaceCowboy@lemmy.ca 18 points 4 months ago (23 children)

    Yup. And you can kill processes in Windows to in the task manager. Or probably with a Powershell command too, but nobody's gonna learn Powershell LOL.

    There's nearly always equivalent functions in both Linux and Windows, just in Windows you gotta click around in more bullshit forms and shit to find stuff. Or learn Powershell, but again, LOL. They are both OSes after all, they do similar things. Just one might do them better than the other.

    [–] capital@lemmy.world 10 points 4 months ago (20 children)

    Why u gotta hate on PowerShell like that? I like it. 😭

    [–] MrPommeroy@lemmy.world 6 points 4 months ago (3 children)

    Probably because it's the scripting language equivalent to Clippy. Ref.: Approved "verbs"

    [–] pantyhosewimp@lemmynsfw.com 7 points 4 months ago (2 children)

    Boy oh boy would you hate AppleScript. This is what I have to type to throw files in the trash instead of deleting them.

    tell application ”Finder” to delete POSIX file “/full/fucking/path/to/file”
    
    [–] PlexSheep@infosec.pub 1 points 4 months ago (1 children)

    Why do you need to "tell" some "application"? Why do you need a "finder" if you know the absolute path already? Does this imply that "finder" always runs, ready to be told something?

    [–] pantyhosewimp@lemmynsfw.com 2 points 4 months ago (1 children)

    Finder is macOS equivalent of Windows Explorer (maybe, it’s been a while). I assume Linux desktop suites have various similar processes. In other words, a second optional layer (with more features) to access runtime libc file manipulation api.

    [–] PlexSheep@infosec.pub 1 points 3 months ago (1 children)

    Explorers in Linux don't work like this. They are just some app you can move your files with.

    [–] pantyhosewimp@lemmynsfw.com 1 points 3 months ago

    Yes. Finder is just some app you can move files with on macOS.

    [–] capital@lemmy.world 2 points 4 months ago (1 children)

    I really appreciate the consistency. People also dog it for being verbose to write but it makes it so much more legible.

    /shrug

    [–] MrPommeroy@lemmy.world 4 points 4 months ago

    I usually write verbose code and use self-documenting function names, but to have such a limited set of verbs available can be frustrating. They could at least have used a proper dictionary and included all verbs. Then have a map of synonyms that are preferred, like instead of 'create' they prefer 'new' (which isn't even a verb).

    [–] lud@lemm.ee 1 points 4 months ago (1 children)

    You don't have to follow best practices though. You can name shit pretty much whatever you want.

    [–] MrPommeroy@lemmy.world 2 points 4 months ago (1 children)

    No, but if you don't the UI will nag at you just like Clippy did, which is my point.

    [–] lud@lemm.ee 1 points 3 months ago

    Only if you haven't disabled or dismissed the "problem"

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