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noplace, a mashup of Twitter and Myspace for Gen Z, hits No. 1 on the App Store (techcrunch.com)

submitted 5 months ago by return2ozma@lemmy.world to c/technology@lemmy.world

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[–] Chozo@fedia.io 208 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (22 children)

From noplace's FAQs: *

do you collect my data?

we use your phone number as a way for you to sign up and log into the app. that's the only thing about you we collect.

we don't share your number or anything else about you with third parties like some other apps do. we want you to be able to securely log in and chat with ur friends, that's it.

Emphasis mine. Now their privacy policy: *

Types of Data Collected

Personal Data While using Our Service, We may ask You to provide Us with certain personally identifiable information that can be used to contact or identify You. Personally identifiable information may include, but is not limited to:

Phone number Usage Data Usage Data Usage Data is collected automatically when using the Service. Usage Data may include information such as Your Device's Internet Protocol address (e.g. IP address), browser type, browser version, the pages of our Service that You visit, the time and date of Your visit, the time spent on those pages, unique device identifiers and other diagnostic data. When You access the Service by or through a mobile device, We may collect certain information automatically, including, but not limited to, the type of mobile device You use, Your mobile device unique ID, the IP address of Your mobile device, Your mobile operating system, the type of mobile Internet browser You use, unique device identifiers and other diagnostic data. We may also collect information that Your browser sends whenever You visit our Service or when You access the Service by or through a mobile device.

So, it looks like they're starting off with lies right at the top, like every other tech startup.

EDIT: To also address the "we don't share your number or anything else about you with third parties" part, the privacy policy also outlines exactly how they will share your data with third parties:

We may share Your personal information in the following situations: [...] With business partners: We may share Your information with Our business partners to offer You certain products, services or promotions.

Go fuck yourselves, noplace.

EDIT: Another issue I just found with their FAQs:

is this a crypto thing?

wut? no.

I thought it was weird that crypto would be a frequently-asked question for what appears to otherwise be a pretty generic-looking social network. Then I found that noplace's parent company, Islands XYZ, was originally launched to be an NFT platform of some sort, financially backed by our old friend Alexis Ohanian.

https://www.forbes.com/sites/alexkonrad/2021/11/30/web3-startup-islands-creators-nft-communities-launch/

So they're totally not a crypto thing. Definitely not crypto. 100% something other than crypto.

Guys, I swear they're not a crypto thing.

[–] AstridWipenaugh@lemmy.world 74 points 5 months ago (14 children)

Your Device's Internet Protocol address (e.g. IP address), - absolutely necessary for anti-ddos techniques
browser type, browser version, - necessary for UX to build a functional website for the browsers that customers actually use
the pages of our Service that You visit, the time and date of Your visit, the time spent on those pages, - critical for determining what is popular and what isn't to improve how the interface is designed and what parts are pulled forward and what parts are hidden in menus
unique device identifiers and other diagnostic data. - useful for determining how often you switch devices and the performance and other experience metrics to drive making the app more user friendly

I work on web software professionally and this is a pretty minimal list that is completely justifiable for maintaining operations. If you can't answer basic questions like "what are users doing with the app?", you can't make intelligent decisions about how to improve it.

There's a lot of the same stuff here: https://legal.lemmy.world/privacy-policy/

I don't know anything about this app or company so I'm not going to defend them, but there aren't any real red flags here. If this amount of data collection bothers you, you really should stop using the internet in general.

[–] FelipeFelop 18 points 5 months ago (1 children)

I think you’ve missed the point. It’s not the data they are collecting but the fact they say they don’t collect data.

[–] AstridWipenaugh@lemmy.world 8 points 5 months ago (1 children)

It's pedantic, but you are not your computer. They don't collect (according to them) PII other than phone numbers.

[–] FelipeFelop 9 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Not sure I agree entirely. The actions I take are definitely data about me.

Also, in many jurisdictions data that could be combined (even in the future) with other data to identify you or something about you, is considered personal data.

For example, Device ID is AstridWipenaugh’s device and they use the app in the morning.

[–] Ghoelian@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 5 months ago (1 children)

(I don't like this kind of data collection either fwiw, not trying to defend them or anything)

On Android at least, device id's are unique per app, and reset when you reset your phone to factory. In theory they can't use this data to cross-track you personally, since every service that uses a device id has a different one for the same user.

They can probably still build up a pretty accurate profile of you based on other data they collect though.

[–] FelipeFelop 1 points 5 months ago

Yes, that’s exactly the point. Combining data is something that must be considered. (And in some jurisdictions like the EU you even need to consider if it could be combined in future with other data)

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