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[–] SpicyPeaSoup@kbin.social 38 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (19 children)

Some people want to work. They usually have no hobbies, family, or interests.

Or they have a job they love. I have heard legends of such things existing.

[–] Captain_Nipples@lemmy.world 12 points 1 year ago (4 children)

I have a job I love 99% of the time. And I have hobbies. I worked really fucking hard to get to where I am. 80+ hour weeks for months at a time for years.

We also have other younger guys come in, and some of them want to learn, and they go right on up the chain. Then, we have people that want things handed to them, don't wanna do anything, and wonder why they're not getting promotions. I've even given them incentives, raises, and tried to coach them on what they should do to meet a goal we both set. Some just want to point fingers and blame everyone else, and never take responsibility for their actions

But we have more success stories than "failures." It's good company to work for.

[–] nitefox@lemmy.world 17 points 1 year ago (3 children)

80 hours weeks for months good company

/s..?

[–] PeleSpirit@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago

I'm guessing they get paid super well and actually love what they do, a rare thing indeed.

[–] marx2k@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago (2 children)
[–] BigNote@lemm.ee 7 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Definitely something white-collar in any case. Nobody is working 80 hours a week for months on end as a roofer or brick-layer. Even fishermen only work 16 hour days for 2 week stretches which are physically punishing enough. The average human body just isn't up to months of 80 hours/week of manual labor.

[–] Captain_Nipples@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

It's not white collar. It's powerplants. I do work in management, but the deal when I moved up was that I still got to work in the field 50% of the time. I get burned out sitting in my office. And I definitely did not start in management, but at the very bottom

And as far as the hours.. there's only so many people you can put on some jobs, so hiring others will just have them standing around

Also, I'd say 90% of the people that work with me love their jobs. I've seen quite a few of them turn down better pay because we're pretty chill and honest about work and expectations. We keep good people around as long as possible.

[–] microphone900@lemmy.ml 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I got close being a framer from 2012-2016. 6 12s in construction was pretty fulfilling and I really liked working with my hands even if the pay was crap. Now I'm an office drone and it's just okay doing a regular 40 for waaay more pay and benefits. I keep doing it because now I have the space to do and buy the stuff I want and not feel economic pressures like I used to.

Sometimes I miss the blue collar job, though. I'm glad I did it but I'm even more glad I made the career change.

[–] BigNote@lemm.ee 1 points 1 year ago

Well that's precisely my point. You can do it, for awhile, when you're young, and maybe you even like it; but there is no world in which one can work 80 hour weeks in construction indefinitely without wrecking your body and playing serious hell with your home life.

Ask me how I know.

[–] nitefox@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago

how does that make it okay?

[–] Captain_Nipples@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

Yea, it's a good job. And it's nothing about hiring more people. Some jobs can only be done by a few people, so we just go around the clock until it's fixed and bring home big paychecks

[–] Achsonaja@sh.itjust.works 9 points 1 year ago

I see you in the OP’s pic

[–] henfredemars@infosec.pub 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Perhaps there's a company out there where there's an exception, but an 80+ hr work week means this company desperately needed to hire, or if you were salaried and especially not earning overtime, it was exploiting your value to get paid without sharing that compensation with you.

If it was under the promise of future compensation, then it's a case of I'd gladly pay you tomorrow for a hamburger today--still scummy.

Internal promotion is pretty rare these days in my field. Usually, you have to jump ship and you learn quickly not to get too attached to a company.

[–] Captain_Nipples@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

It's because you can only put a few people on these jobs at a time, and you want damn good workers that do quality work. You don't want multiple crews messing with some things because it can cause confusion or things to be missed

And it wasn't promised to me, but I did make it up the ladder some, and still have places I can go up to. It's actually a really good job, pays damn good, but requires a person to put in some work.

But, it's nothing to go work a month like this, pay all your bills and have $15k extra after it's all done

[–] phlemmy@lemmy.ca 4 points 1 year ago (2 children)

This is also exactly my situation. I worked hard for my dream job and now it doesn't feel like work but a fun game instead. I know that's not the case for most, and I'm grateful for it.

I do hire people for my department, and want to give them the same opportunity to be happy. It's really hard to find someone who is as excited as me for what I do. It's not so much they don't want to work, but they don't want to work HERE.

[–] SimplyATable@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

Hoping to be a software dev or some other similar job someday. I've been writing code in some capacity ever since I could write (thanks to an uncle who got me into it and paid for all kinds of learning opportunities), some kind of job revolving around it has been my dream for most of my life. I'm 20 now, tried getting into college this year but life is good at turning your plans upside down. I've still got plenty of time to chase that dream job at least, I just gotta get the knowledge and the degree

[–] Captain_Nipples@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

I forgot about my comment and just tried out Sync, and saw the replies..

That's great, though. This wasn't my dream job, but I kind of fell into what I wanted to do along the way. It turns out that it's very fulfilling and pays well. And I can't think of anyone that is above me that I don't like. No one has given me a reason to hate them, and I think they feel the same about me. The people that work for me like me, even though they're constantly giving me shit

I do like how this site (pretty much Reddit) acts like every employer is out to fuck them, and everyone is as miserable as they are.

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