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[–] MagicShel@programming.dev 27 points 4 months ago (41 children)

I hope I can ask this without leading to a bunch of religious fervor about pro or anti-2A. For the record I support having some rights to guns, but as long as anyone claims 2A is a reason we can't have sensible legislation about guns, then I'm against 2A entirely. I say that in effort to establish I'm not asking in bad faith.

Violent crime is at an all time low, according to many articles. So how is gun violence at an all time high? Is there an excess of non-criminal gun violence? Like perhaps suicide is at a high? Police shootings making up the difference? Is there gun violence showing up in hospitals that isn't being reported to law enforcement? Is there a different standard of what constitutes gun violence between the healthcare and law enforcement communities?

I read the article and a couple of linked ones, but I couldn't find any answer. At first glance it doesn't seem like both things can be true, but I'm going to assume instead I'm just missing part of the picture, so what is it?

[–] Yearly1845@reddthat.com 3 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Not all violent crime is gun violence.

You used to have 20,000 violent crimes a year, 500 of which were violent gun crimes. Now you have 5000 violent crimes a year and they're mostly gun violence, then violent crime would be at an all time low while gun violence was at an all time high.

I'm completely making this up, but that's how I read it.

[–] MagicShel@programming.dev 1 points 4 months ago

Could be. I just picture guns to be involved in a much larger proportion of violent crimes.

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