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Sadly not the case for germany...
https://de.statista.com/statistik/daten/studie/2460/umfrage/anteile-nichtdeutscher-verdaechtiger-bei-straftaten-zeitreihe/
Over 41% of crimes committed in Germany in 2023 were done by foreigners, while the people living in Germany (~85 million) are overwhelmingly ethnic germans (~72 million, or 85%).
*note that these numbers are subject to the usual statistical inaccuracies and also count people put to trial for a crime, not necessarily only the ones convicted.
"Straftatverdächtig" means "accused of a crime", that doesn't mean they actually commited them. The same statistics also states that only about 30 percent of those non-Germans were immigrants. That means that about 18 percents of (again, only) accused crimes were by immigrants, which is still a worrying uptick from 15 percent of the year before. A likely factor for the uptick was the Covid pandemic in 2022.
Feel free to read the second paragraph as well, I specifically mentioned that this doesnt just count convictions. I also refer to foreigners, which is probably the most accurate way to translate "Ausländer“, not just immigrants.
But you did say "not the case for Germany" in response to a comment that was specifically about immigrants. So the above commenter's point was that it in fact is the case for Germany.
The cited data refers to foreigners, not immigrants. Although I would argue that the distinction in this case is largely nitpicking anyway, since as far as I understand foreigners in this context are prospecting immigrants, who are already in the country and await the processing of their application for citizenship, or non-citizens simply living here for any reason.
I'm not even sure what you are trying to argue, you even agree with me that the data shows a very concerning trend over the years. Just semantics?