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[–] WamGams@lemmy.ca -2 points 6 months ago (15 children)
[–] Noite_Etion@lemmy.world 6 points 6 months ago (14 children)

Just a head's up but not a single police department in the nation DNA tests or even has a spot on their reports to label which specific breed of dog caused the attack.

Your link doesn't address the point you made above, it's just a list of dogs mistaken for specifically "American pit bull terriers", it doesn't mention police DNA tests or reports, it says nothing.

Besides im talking about Pit Bulls in general which (Per the statement I made previously to another commenter on this post) is an umbrella term for several types of dog believed to have descended from bull and terriers. In the United States, the term is usually considered to include the American Pit Bull Terrier, American Staffordshire Terrier, American Bully, Staffordshire Bull Terrier, and sometimes the American Bulldog.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pit_bull

Additionally the list you provided is half-filled out by the dogs that come under the pit bull breed. It even states that many dogs fall under the pit bull specification, which is why it singles out the American pit bull terrier in order to draw a distinction to them rather than say American Bullies.

[–] WamGams@lemmy.ca -3 points 6 months ago (13 children)

The world's first ever police DNA program started in the UK in 2021, and it was created for dog thefts, not dog attacks.

https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-england-gloucestershire-57578701

And seeing that there is no national database of all precinct's police reports, you will have to go to your police department and see for yourself that they are not even cataloguing the breeds per attack.

As for your comment that there are 5 dogs that fall under the umbrella term of pit bull, that actually helps my original point that these lists are unscientific. Chihauhas aren't lumped together with Mexican shorthairs when the numbers are tallied, neither is any dog lumped with their types. These lists also don't break down which of the pit types are most responsible for the most attacks.

  1. because the numbers aren't collected by anybody, meaning the lists are lying, and
  2. if the pit types were separated by their actual breed, the numbers would show an average or a slightly higher rate of aggression, not the majority of all attacks.

I would also point out that almost none of these lists you read online include German Shephards, which is strange since they tend to be the only dog in the US that is commissioned as Police Officer and are frequently attacking people as part of their job. Further evidence that these lists are unscientific and politically motivated.

[–] MostRegularPeople@lemmy.world -2 points 6 months ago

The American Temperament Test Society tests aggression in dog breeds in controlled environment. Participants self select, so there's that, and ultimately I think the test says more about the owners than the dogs. Nonetheless, per the ATTS , the american pit bill terrier passed 87% of the time while the Australian shepherd only passed 83% of the time.

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