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Maybe, just maybe it shouldn't cost close to 10k to even TRY to have a kid through IVF? More like 15k out of pocket costs till the Medicare rebate anyway.

1 in 6 aussie couples will struggle with infertility whilst 1 in 20 kids is born of IVF. https://monashivf.com/one-in-six/

1 in 6 couples. 1 in 20 babies. You can see a fair gap here. Unless your comfortably "middle class", you screwed. yes there are some public clinics with no gap, but the wait times are staggering. If we're worried about falling birth rates FULLY funding IVF and fertility treatments through Medicare is a no brainer.

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[–] tacosanonymous@lemm.ee 2 points 7 months ago (6 children)

I look forward to seeing how this plan helps the indigenous peoples.

[–] unionagainstdhmo@aussie.zone 2 points 7 months ago (5 children)

??? I don't think this is targeted at Indigenous Australians, I think the point of the article is that the economy requires population growth in order to grow. I suppose economic growth may be a threat to Indigenous communities if more land is taken to support the growth.

[–] Catfish@aussie.zone 3 points 7 months ago (1 children)

There was a previous policy of involuntary sterilisation.

[–] unionagainstdhmo@aussie.zone 1 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Okay, the above comment just seemed low-effort and rage bait

[–] Gorgritch_umie_killa@aussie.zone 2 points 7 months ago (1 children)

The second comment also seems low effort to me.

At least for the introduction of such a separate perspective to the one being discussed.

[–] unionagainstdhmo@aussie.zone 3 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) (1 children)

Maybe I'm reading it wrong but they just seem to insinuate that it is common knowledge when I doubt most people would be aware of the issue. It just seems really off topic - I suppose it's important but as far as I know that practice does not continue today.

Should we be trying to correct it by encouraging Indigenous Australians to have more children? It's up to the individuals really but I don't think it's wise to encourage people to have children if it's not economically sustainable for them just so we can feel satisfied that some past wrongdoings have been "corrected" (at least on the population size front, not the socio-economic front). Personally, I don't think we really need to increase our population size too much anyway, as we're seeing now "baby booms" aren't actually that good long term, when there is a massive ageing population in need of care. Simply put I think that quality of life is inversely proportional to population size.

I believe this is what they were referring to: https://theconversation.com/friday-essay-too-many-aboriginal-babies-australias-secret-history-of-aboriginal-population-control-in-the-1960s-189249

[–] Gorgritch_umie_killa@aussie.zone 2 points 6 months ago

Good article. Fuck eugenics.

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