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[โ€“] cynar@lemmy.world 87 points 7 months ago (5 children)

If he's allowed to choose black or white, he could force Kasparov to play himself. Each loop he just includes whatever Kasparov did at the end of the chain last time. Eventually, this will result in a guaranteed win. He just needs to then reverse the side and replay.

[โ€“] marty@infosec.pub 3 points 7 months ago (1 children)

While that's a good idea, I'm not convinced your conclusion is correct. But maybe I'm just missing something. Why would they eventually arrive at a win, and not a draw?

[โ€“] cynar@lemmy.world 5 points 7 months ago (1 children)

There might be some complexity in a draw. You might need to get creative at that point. The question is, would he play himself to a draw, or to a win for 1 side.

It's a common stage trick though. A single "master plays 11 games of chess at once. He's actually just playing 1, against the weakest player. All the rest are paired off, and he just transfers their move across.

[โ€“] Daxter101@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 points 7 months ago (1 children)

That sounds really cool as a concept, but doesn't that require 1. An even distribution of black and white, and 2., doesn't that guarantee a 50/50 winrate on the event?

[โ€“] cynar@lemmy.world 1 points 7 months ago

It does, though winning 7 out of 13 games of chess is still quite an achievement, particularly when the players are of a very high level.

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