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"North Atlantic sea surface temperature anomalies are going vertical again. And yes, I needed to extend the y-axis." (lemmy.world)
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From Prof. Eliot Jacobson:

Wow! Wow! Wow!

North Atlantic sea surface temperature anomalies are going vertical again. And yes, I needed to extend the y-axis.

Yesterday's temperature of 24.49°C (76.08°F) was 4.2σ above the 1991-2020 mean. The previous high for July 17 was 23.71°C (74.68°F) in 2020.

https://twitter.com/EliotJacobson/status/1681321023306874880

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[–] BurnTheRight@kbin.social 15 points 1 year ago (3 children)

Thank a conservative. There will be no solution to climate change while conservatives have any power at all. The time for aggressive action to end conservatism is now.

[–] wnose@kbin.social 2 points 1 year ago (2 children)
[–] honey-im-meat-grinding@kbin.social 21 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Why aren't you making your point in plain English instead of this roundabout way?

If you're implying that we should look at China's emissions – China's cumulative and per capita emissions are lower than the US. China is basically on par with the EU in terms of per capita emissions, so if anyone has some catching up to do it's the US with 2x (twice!) as much emissions per capita.

If that's not your point, then that's my bad – I see way too many people try to shift blame onto China in these conversations.

[–] xapr@lemmy.sdf.org 13 points 1 year ago

Also consider that the majority of the world has offloaded the majority of their manufacturing to China in that same timeframe, so it's not even a fair comparison to start with.