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[–] dimlo@lemmy.world 6 points 1 year ago (8 children)

It’s not remotely easier. Trains carriages are easy to build, but the infrastructure is not. You have to move and extend roads, demolish buildings, lay the rails, build bridges, if you go underground there will be lots of digging and engineering work to protect nearby buildings, and don’t forget about maintenance. It is only profitable when the population is high enough and people have the need to travel to set places en mass. Otherwise it is just fantasy. If you live your whole live around any city Center, I can understand that you are not going to drive . But plenty of people lived in a tiny town of population under 10000people .

[–] bonnetbee@lemmy.world 7 points 1 year ago (5 children)

Please explain to me: how is it possible to build a new highway through Berlin but so damn hard to build a railway through rural area?

[–] WireOwl@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago

Well for one roads are relatively cheap tarmac is almost fully reusable and is already mostly oil industry waste.

Rail lines are much more restrictive than roads in where and how you can build them. they can't turn as sharply or have that high of an incline.

Also a good portion of most llarge city populations don't live in the city but commute. Not all of them commute to the same few areas so of course on city exits there will be a bottle neck but it thins out relatively quickly as people fuck off in multiple directions. I guess you could reduce congestion by not allowing most car in the city and having large car parks in key point outside the city. But I'm not a civil engineer or whatever deals with traffic.

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