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[–] WackyTabbacy42069@reddthat.com 2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (24 children)

Yea, the AI is a tool used by humans to make art. Like other artistic tools, you can use it in a low effort way to make stuff (like the abstract and ultra random modern art). Similarly, people can use it in a much more directed and creative way, such as by using ControlNet to determine the content of the art manually, then have the AI follow whatever style directed.

There are many ways to use AI art in a more involved way than just prompting and hoping for the best. Still, like the other artistic tools that have been invented, people want to gatekeep and call it not art. Don't listen to them, art is art regardless of how you perceive it. You may not think it as worthwhile, but it is still created only for aesthetic value and is thus art

[–] neko@fishfry.cheese.beer 1 points 1 year ago (23 children)
  1. It's not art
  2. Modern art made by people who actually have marketable skills isn't low effort
[–] RotaryKeyboard@lemmy.ninja 12 points 1 year ago (5 children)

It’s not art

I'm old enough to remember three similar statements that are equally untrue:

  • Photography isn't art
  • Photoshop isn't art
  • Video Games aren't art

Eventually, we changed our opinions. The same will happen for generative images. They are art.

[–] Varlus@lemmy.ml 4 points 1 year ago (2 children)

As an artist who grew up when those exact same arguments were happening, I've always found it odd people went with the "AI is bad because it's not art" argument. Instead of focusing on something like real people losing their jobs because of it. Which is such more legitimate reasons to hate how AI art is currently being used vs "b-but all you did was type prompts! You didn't spend years learning like a REAL artist!" as if early photography/digital art wasn't given the exact same criticism of "The tech does everything for you"

[–] RotaryKeyboard@lemmy.ninja 4 points 1 year ago

Instead of focusing on something like real people losing their jobs because of it.

Ironically, it was the rise of one of those job-killing changes that made it possible for me to get in to a job in art in the first place. I think the same thing will be true for generative images. Some people who relied on the high bar for entry to protect their jobs will lose them, and some people who couldn't get access to those jobs will suddenly find themselves able to enter artistic fields.

[–] DanteFlame@lemmy.sdf.org 1 points 1 year ago

But then you also fall into the trap of arguing against advancements in technology like the Industrial Revolution or globalisation, it’s affects on the environment aside, you could say it was bad because once machines were doing human work faster and more efficiently and cheaper, then so many people ended up losing their jobs. Yes it’s a real concern but it’s not a new concern and historically we know which side won, so either way we know which way things are gunna shake out, just gotta accept it and prepare.

Or do what a lot of mining and industry towns in the US did and just sit around unemployed or in poverty hoping for the day those jobs come back - exaggeration and hyperbole but you get the idea

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